Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 224 › Conversation 224-019

Nixon phone call with Cox on White House interior design and Camp David

Tuesday, November 14, 1972 · 1:10 PM–1:15 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 4 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Cox, Tricia NixonConversation224-019 on Tape 224StartTuesday, November 14, 1972 at 1:10 PMEndTuesday, November 14, 1972 at 1:15 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 224-019 ↗

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President Nixon met with his daughter, Tricia Nixon Cox, at Camp David to discuss personal domestic projects and share brief political observations. The President proposed redecorating the third-floor room to make it more comfortable and vibrant, suggesting they enlist a decorator to update the space with brighter colors. Additionally, the pair touched upon the aftermath of the recent election, with Nixon critiquing George McGovern’s post-election rhetoric regarding voter shifts.

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Hi, Trish.
How are you doing?
Getting along?
Was that your first visit?
No, but he wasn't there.
I bet he wasn't there.
Yeah.
And Burger saw you there, didn't he?
Nice.
You know one thing that you and me and Julie ought to talk about is, I don't want to get too much in your way, but I really think it's important that we take that third floor room and make it into a really warm, pleasant,
Manly room.
Well, a room that we, that's right, where we can go up and, you know, sit around and maybe the bar thing should be kept.
I mean, obviously, leave it with that, but set it up so that it looks nicer, you know.
It's ugly the way it's done now with a proper little bar lock back there.
But then with the furniture more comfortable and decorated more colorfully.
I like to see it decorated colorfully.
Why don't you talk to my man?
Okay.
It's a hell of a good project.
That's right.
You see, there are times when people want to be using the West Hall or the old, or anybody who may want to go up and stand in the way, or where you have guests who may want to be there, but the room should be made into a pleasant room.
It's rather barren in my view now.
Right?
But you know, just get a damned up decorator in and have them fix it up with bright colors
That's what I like.
Oh, I...
I like anything.
I like blues and reds and yellows, you know.
But, uh, they'll not happen.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, anyway, just fine.
We're working on that.
It's winter here now.
All the leaves are gone.
It's foggy.
But, uh, I've been working inside all of them because they've been tremendous work we're getting done.
But it's come along fine.
Right.
I see McGovern complain that Wallace's votes went to us and then to them.
He said, well, he's not quite that.
He's worse.
He's worse in a sense.
He's a total ideologue.
And he's not as smart as the Congress.
Well, anyway.
You have a good time now.
We'll see you.
Bye.
Yeah, he's going to be here.
What?
He's going to come out for that.
Okay.
All right.
Bye.

NARA Description

On November 14, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Tricia Nixon Cox met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 1:10 pm to 1:15 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 224-019 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 224-19

Date: November 14, 1972
Time: 1:10 pm – 1:15 pm.
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

The President talked with Tricia Nixon Cox.

[See Conversation No. 153-13]

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Also recorded on November 14, 1972

  • 153-010 12:40 PM · 24 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at 12:40 pm.
  • 153-011 12:40 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 12:40 pm and 12:42 pm.
  • 153-012 12:42 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods talked on the telephone at Camp David from 12:42 pm to 12:44 pm.
  • 224-017 12:42 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 12:42 pm to 12:44 pm.
  • 224-018 12:44 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 12:44 pm and 1:10 pm.
  • 153-013 1:10 PM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Tricia Nixon Cox talked on the telephone at Camp David from 1:10 pm to 1:15 pm.
  • 153-014 1:15 PM · 21 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:15 pm and 2:05 pm.
  • 224-020 1:15 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:15 pm and 2:05 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 224-019, November 14, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/224-019 (accessed October 8, 2026).