{"conversationCode":"224-027","tapeNumber":224,"conversationNumber":27,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-224-027","startDateTime":"1972-11-14T20:08:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-14T20:11:00.000Z","startDate":"14-Nov-1972","startTime":"3:08 PM","endDate":"14-Nov-1972","endTime":"3:11 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Brennan, John V.;","description":"On November 14, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and John V. Brennan met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 3:08 pm and 3:11 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 224-027 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 224-27\n\nDate: November 14, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 3:08 pm and 3:11 pm\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President met with John V. (“Jack”) Brennan.\n\n        Henry A. Kissinger’s request for a conversation with the President\n             -Anatoliy Dobrynin's departure for the Soviet Union\n\n        Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo\n             -Arrival\n\nBrennan left at an unknown time before 3:11 pm.","filename":["224-027.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Brennan, John V."],"prevCode":"224-026","nextCode":"224-028","transcript":[{"start":0.28,"end":9.27,"text":"As far as the doctor is concerned, I can speak to you before 3.30 because the brain is going to Moscow then."},{"start":9.29,"end":10.07,"text":"Okay, and maybe we'll be here tomorrow."},{"start":10.09,"end":10.63,"text":"We'll be back in time then."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with John V. Brennan at Camp David to facilitate communication regarding Henry Kissinger’s request for a discussion with the President. The conversation centered on the logistical timing of Soviet Ambassador Anatoliy Dobrynin’s departure for Moscow, which influenced the President’s scheduling. Additionally, the participants briefly confirmed the arrival status of Charles “Bebe” Rebozo.","topics":["Henry Kissinger","Anatoliy Dobrynin","Soviet-American relations","Bebe Rebozo","Presidential scheduling"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T10:51:36.470Z"},"topicSlugs":["henry-kissinger","anatoliy-dobrynin","soviet-american-relations","bebe-rebozo","presidential-scheduling"],"audioDurationSec":15,"audioFiles":[{"file":"224-027.mp3","bytes":373907,"durationSec":15.44,"bitrate":193734,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.204Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/224-027.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/224-027","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/224/conversation-224-027","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}