Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 225-009
Date: Wednesday, November 15, 1972 at 9:08 AM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.
Recording device: Camp David Hard Wire
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/225-009

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[0:00] Hello?
[0:01] Hi, Henry.
[0:03] Did you get the letter down there?
[0:09] Fine.
[0:09] Good.
[0:10] Well, there's no substance, but I just thought we ought to put a few subtleties in there.
[0:22] I put in a few things that were very tough, like an unalterable.
[0:26] But also I put in some soft things, like I would look forward to seeing you in San Clemente.
[0:32] But I want to be sure you've got it because, you know, the helicopter wasn't running yesterday.
[0:40] Well, we were socked in here, so they had to drive it down.
[1:01] I, I don't know, I don't see how, uh, maybe, like, maybe, uh, continue to, uh, stall it out, but I don't see how he can.
[1:12] Uh, what in the hell is he gonna do?
[1:13] Uh, the, uh, the way that, uh, the way that, the way that letter is written, it's put in a context that, uh, we, uh, we have to go another way if he doesn't go.
[1:28] But I don't know, I, I don't know if, uh,
[1:35] We don't want to do that because of the fact that it would be an effect.
[1:44] They say, well, hell, you could have done that all along.
[1:49] You see what I mean?
[1:51] It's not that good an option.
[1:52] He's probably savvy enough to know that.
[2:08] one of our real problems here is that we don't have any real communication between Bunker and him anymore.
[2:23] That's the point.
[2:24] Bunker used to go in and be able to talk to him.
[2:29] Now he doesn't talk to him.
[2:31] Same is true.
[2:31] Abrams is not there anymore.
[2:37] But anyway, yeah.
[2:44] Leonard is so tough that he's, but he just, I suppose, Henry could just come back, looking over again, his letter to us, with another goddamn song to dance here about, well, I, you know, a debating point, and then it's got to be pretty good.
[3:06] I have some ideas on that then.
[3:12] Is that what the time to ask to deliver a letter and got to put off?
[3:29] Yeah.
[3:29] Changes.
[3:41] of action and we're asking him to come along.
[3:50] Isn't that it?
[3:55] Oh, not all.
[3:56] Okay, thank you.
[3:59] Bye.
[4:00] Bye.