{"conversationCode":"225-033","tapeNumber":225,"conversationNumber":33,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-225-033","startDateTime":"1972-11-16T18:35:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-16T18:35:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Nov-1972","startTime":"1:35 PM","endDate":"16-Nov-1972","endTime":"1:35 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Camp David Operator;","description":"On November 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at 1:35 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 225-033 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 225-33\n\nDate: November 16, 1972\nTime: 1:35 pm\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President talked with the Camp David operator.\n\n[See Conversation No. 153-32]","filename":["225-033.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Camp David Operator"],"prevCode":"225-032","nextCode":"225-034","transcript":[{"start":4.57,"end":8.36,"text":"That's right, I knew he was going over."},{"start":8.38,"end":9.12,"text":"Right, right."},{"start":9.14,"end":12.23,"text":"Would you try Mr. Norman Chandler in Los Angeles, please?"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon initiates a call to the Camp David operator to request a connection to Mr. Norman Chandler in Los Angeles. The brief interaction serves primarily as a logistical arrangement to reach the prominent publisher. No further substantive policy matters or decisions are documented in this segment.","topics":["Norman Chandler","Logistics","Communications","Camp David"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T10:54:57.978Z"},"topicSlugs":["norman-chandler","logistics","communications","camp-david"],"audioDurationSec":17,"audioFiles":[{"file":"225-033.mp3","bytes":413987,"durationSec":17.13,"bitrate":193301,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.205Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/225-033.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/225-033","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/225/conversation-225-033","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}