{"conversationCode":"225-037","tapeNumber":225,"conversationNumber":37,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-225-037","startDateTime":"1972-11-16T19:09:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-16T19:18:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Nov-1972","startTime":"2:09 PM","endDate":"16-Nov-1972","endTime":"2:18 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Magner, John G.;","description":"On November 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and John G. Magner met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 2:09 pm and 2:18 pm. 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(“Bebe”) Rebozo\n\nMagner [?] left at an unknown time before 2:18 pm.","filename":["225-037.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Magner, John G."],"prevCode":"225-036","nextCode":"225-038","transcript":[{"start":0.99,"end":13.25,"text":"Mr. Rogers will be here between 3.30 and 3.45."},{"start":13.27,"end":13.65,"text":"He's arriving here?"},{"start":13.67,"end":13.85,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":13.87,"end":14.41,"text":"We're going to talk to him."},{"start":14.43,"end":15.15,"text":"We'll see Mr. Hollywood first."},{"start":16.75,"end":16.93,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":16.95,"end":18.66,"text":"They're here now."},{"start":18.68,"end":19.26,"text":"They're holding her up there."},{"start":19.28,"end":19.46,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":19.48,"end":20.08,"text":"They're down in the yard now."},{"start":20.1,"end":22.18,"text":"Well, they're supposed to come here."},{"start":22.2,"end":23.16,"text":"Well, I guess, I think I told them to come here."},{"start":23.18,"end":24.02,"text":"Well, let's just tell them from over here."},{"start":24.04,"end":24.22,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":24.24,"end":24.5,"text":"They're fine."},{"start":24.52,"end":25.39,"text":"Mrs. Hickson will still be here about 3.30."},{"start":25.41,"end":25.91,"text":"Will she come in?"},{"start":25.93,"end":26.11,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":31.87,"end":54.38,"text":"When she comes, I would suggest that you have her wear me really tight into that bag."},{"start":54.4,"end":56.02,"text":"I know she's here at 3.30 or so."},{"start":56.04,"end":57.04,"text":"Tell her she may just want to stay in her bedroom."},{"start":57.06,"end":57.94,"text":"Tell her, say, a man or a woman deserves me."},{"start":57.96,"end":58.88,"text":"And tell her also, that would be a nice thing."},{"start":58.9,"end":59.7,"text":"When she comes, maybe he could meet her."},{"start":59.72,"end":60.64,"text":"Because he hasn't been able to do anything."},{"start":60.66,"end":61.36,"text":"And go for a walk around the place."},{"start":61.38,"end":61.76,"text":"That's a good idea."},{"start":62.06,"end":64.04,"text":"Tell me you need it."},{"start":64.06,"end":67.14,"text":"I will be tied up until about 5 o'clock."},{"start":67.16,"end":72.39,"text":"Go for a walk."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with John G. Magner at Camp David to coordinate his afternoon schedule and logistics for upcoming visitors. The discussion focused on the arrival times of Secretary of State William P. Rogers and the First Lady, Pat Nixon, while also planning for meetings with aides H.R. Haldeman and John Ehrlichman. Nixon provided specific instructions regarding the First Lady’s arrival, suggesting she be encouraged to relax or go for a walk with Bebe Rebozo while he remained occupied with official business until 5:00 p.m.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Camp David","Pat Nixon","William P. 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