Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 225-038
Date: Thursday, November 16, 1972 at 2:18 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Chandler, Norman
Recording device: Camp David Hard Wire
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/225-038

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[0:12] Hello?
[0:15] Norm, and more importantly, how are you?
[0:18] Great, great.
[0:19] Well, what are you?
[0:27] Your voice sounds great.
[0:29] Well, I'll tell you what I heard about this.
[0:31] I said, well, and I had somebody tell me that they had a few problems.
[0:38] I said, well, we need you.
[0:40] That's the main thing.
[0:40] We just can't.
[0:42] You know, at least, you know, I've got to go to the Grove sometime, and I want you to be there, you know.
[0:48] You know, by the time I get there, I'll probably be in that group where they put over at the side there, you know, the old guard.
[0:55] Well, what I want to tell you, too, is I've been sitting here at Camp David, actually, in Minnesota, and we're trying to work out all the... We're going to have a massive reorganization, which you'll be very pleased with, I'm sure, but any event.
[1:11] I have also been working on all the letters and so forth, with thousands of people who have contributed and so forth.
[1:22] Well, let me say, as I thought about it, I can think of a few indispensables.
[1:26] And as I've told you before, one of the indispensables was not only the endorsement of the Times in 1946, which of course was essential in my ever-getting nomination as a congressman,
[1:40] But in 1950, I will never forget when Kyle Palmer, when I was in California, I didn't know what I was going to do at night, you know, just a junior congressman.
[1:52] Kyle invited me to lunch with him, and he took me to the old milk bar.
[1:56] And I remember, I remember, I remember to say what I had.
[1:59] I had a tamale, one of those great big tamales.
[2:02] And Kyle, now he's sort of blunt, sort of rumbled around, he said, he said, well, David,
[2:07] He said, I don't think it's a good idea, but Norman told me that I should tell you that if you want to run for the Senate, I will support you.
[2:17] And I said, well, you know, I told him that.
[2:19] But without that little word from you, I would have never run, and I'd never be here now.
[2:24] So, yeah, yeah.
[2:27] Because I imagine, well, I'll tell you, you were the man, and what you have done through the years, your support has
[2:34] I mean, not only in the paper, but I remember the time at the Grove after the, you know, before the 68th, when you and Walter Hanover came over to Cayman, you remember?
[2:44] Yeah, we had a good talk.
[2:48] Well, I'm going to keep him on for a while.
[2:50] I'm asking too much next time.
[2:51] He's done it.
[2:54] Good.
[2:55] Yeah.
[2:57] Well, if you could, you might, you know, I talked to him myself.
[3:01] I dropped this one.
[3:02] I wrote a note before the election.
[3:04] Let me say, everybody wants that job.
[3:07] And I think, I just feel he should stay there for a while.
[3:12] And if you, if you're a grommet, you have a notary, you could say, you and I were chatting, he's my same friend.
[3:16] We get a, you know, a few, a third hand.
[3:23] That's right.
[3:23] I sort of had that in mind.
[3:26] I got enough heat as it is.
[3:28] Right.
[3:29] Right.
[3:34] Now that our total percentage might even, it's already the biggest absolute margin in terms of both, but also the margin may go over 61 points, which is not bad.
[3:50] Yes, sir, right on the line.
[3:52] That's right, that's right.
[3:54] Well, anyway, now you take care, and you're going to meet this thing, you know?
[4:01] Yes.
[4:09] I know, I know.
[4:19] It must be.
[4:20] Well, yeah.
[4:23] Oh, well.
[4:25] Well, yeah.
[4:29] You'll get a note from me, but just one other little thank you.
[4:32] That's what I wanted to call you and tell you what we were thinking about.
[4:36] Give our best about it.