{"conversationCode":"225-041","tapeNumber":225,"conversationNumber":41,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-225-041","startDateTime":"1972-11-16T18:36:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-16T18:51:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Nov-1972","startTime":"1:36 PM","endDate":"16-Nov-1972","endTime":"1:51 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On November 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:36 pm and 1:51 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 225-041 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 225-41\n\nDate: November 16, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 1:36 pm and 1:51 pm\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President met with an unknown person.\n\n       Instruction\n\nUnknown person left at an unknown time before 1:51 pm.","filename":["225-041.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"225-040","nextCode":"226-001","transcript":[{"start":0.25,"end":9.13,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon held a brief meeting at the Aspen Lodge in Camp David with an unidentified individual. The discussion took place over the hard wire recording system, though no substantive dialogue or specific policy decisions were captured in the available transcript. The interaction concluded without any recorded action items or significant developments.","topics":["Camp David","Presidential records","Executive proceedings","Unidentified meeting"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T10:55:42.057Z"},"topicSlugs":["camp-david","presidential-records","executive-proceedings","unidentified-meeting"],"audioDurationSec":9,"audioFiles":[{"file":"225-041.mp3","bytes":220938,"durationSec":9.08,"bitrate":194659,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.205Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/225-041.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/225-041","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/225/conversation-225-041","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}