Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 227-001
Date: Sunday, November 19, 1972 at 12:15 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")
Recording device: Camp David Hard Wire
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/227-001

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[0:01] He has another function.
[0:16] And I want to know whether he's up to that.
[0:21] That's really what he's up to.
[0:22] Because I think that's important for us all before we move on.
[0:24] Well, I know I'll ever be with the management because of the substance.
[0:26] I didn't give a damn about that.
[0:27] I didn't talk to anybody like a big ladies man and all that.
[0:28] I was
[0:30] Days out of this, why not?
[0:34] He could be a lady's man for five minutes.
[0:41] That's all.
[0:41] Do you realize that?
[0:45] That's all.
[0:46] In fact, his failure to see the substance is what concerns me.
[0:48] Back off.
[0:50] Off the coast.
[0:50] We talked to him.
[0:51] I worked it out.
[0:53] Whatever the duty was being.
[0:55] Having his office physically in the White House.
[0:56] We could get somebody else to leave.
[0:58] Hold on.
[0:59] It's going to be a very good one to get out of the way and ask him what he'd like to announce.
[1:14] And I said, what date?
[1:16] Take it to the 20th.
[1:18] Don't force it on him.
[1:19] Now, do we have any idea yet about Redstone?
[1:25] Yeah.
[1:26] What he wants to do.
[1:26] I'll offer him a capital solution.
[1:29] Because I'm not going to have anybody in there for a month, or two months, or six months, and then delete it from our office.
[1:46] That's bad.
[1:46] So let's just stop.
[1:47] I lean very strongly.
[1:47] If Chuck can get this sentence to accept it, I think I'm going to take credit for the labor job.
[1:56] I have reasons for doing this to him.
[1:58] That's not what I like.
[2:02] That's not what I like.
[2:04] Because Brennan wants to cut the guts out of the Jewish clack over there, see?
[2:07] That's how you say it.
[2:12] Coastal control.
[2:12] That's how you say commerce.
[2:13] And it opens up transportation.
[2:16] Both of those.
[2:17] The impression that they want, you know, the mic on recession.
[2:19] You see?
[2:22] Yeah.
[2:23] I know.
[2:23] But I understand that's not changed.
[2:25] Right.
[2:26] Right.
[2:28] Well, that's right.
[2:32] But you understand, now that transportation can keep bread, we can get bread for life, fine.
[2:37] That doesn't mean, though, that in transportation and in commerce, I think it should be my two candidates are the one.
[2:47] My woman is the first choice.
[2:49] I just think it would be a hell of a good signal to the party.
[2:52] It's a good signal to the women.
[2:54] It's a good signal to the public.
[2:56] the business community, the hell of a business community wants.
[3:04] And you have to put, you have to draw the trust of Dr. Keppel's people, but it doesn't make all that much difference.
[3:06] I just think it has a hell of a sound to it.
[3:10] I don't know anything.
[3:11] And she'd be a hell of a salesman for us.
[3:14] And she isn't shopwired.
[3:18] So we've got to have a little flair, a little flair.
[3:30] I don't think so.
[3:47] I'm afraid it's, I think it's, she might be, but with all that oil and stuff out there, I'm not sure.
[3:54] I guess she could be my car then.
[3:55] My car then.
[3:55] Commerce or Interior.
[3:55] Then we could have her come away and have her do it.
[3:57] It's not that, that only leaves us then.
[3:57] That would mean all this, all this, however it would only work out provided
[4:00] go with the scally of the U.N. from having to go up the wall and just brutalize him because he's not going to do it.
[4:19] When he comes, it's my intention to do it.
[4:20] And Shultz has got to brace up and be a man here to offer him the deputy's job over there.
[4:25] Right?
[4:25] You weren't in the conversation with Shultz when Shultz served.
[4:29] Well, he didn't have anybody else.
[4:33] Anyway, let's just point out we've got to have a political man in that job.
[4:39] Tell Erdman to work that out with Schultz.
[4:41] Because, see, I can't see these guys tomorrow without telling them to offer it.
[4:47] Bush has that.
[4:48] I don't want Bush.
[4:49] But I don't want to push Bush up to the cabinet.
[4:54] Although, if he didn't take that, he is another possibility for the Congress, John.
[5:03] I need some of these answers for everybody.
[5:12] I don't know what to be able to tell everybody to get out.