{"conversationCode":"228-002","tapeNumber":228,"conversationNumber":2,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-228-002","startDateTime":"1972-11-20T18:21:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-20T18:42:00.000Z","startDate":"20-Nov-1972","startTime":"1:21 PM","endDate":"20-Nov-1972","endTime":"1:42 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President);","description":"On November 20, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:21 pm and 1:42 pm. 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(“Bob”) Haldeman\n\n       Republican National Committee [RNC]\n            -Dole\n            -Risk\n\n       Unknown person\n\f                                      -25-\n\n           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                  Conversation No. 228-2 (cont’d)\n\n     -Delegation\n\nThe President’s files\n     -Personal papers\n     -Substance, details\n     -Vietnam\n     -Trip to People’s Republic of China [PRC]\n\nPublic relations\n      -William P. Rogers\n      -The President’s memorandum\n      -The President’s image\n      -Henry A. Kissinger\n      -William L. Safire\n      -Hugh S. Sidey\n      -Life\n             -Cut off\n             -Ronald L. Ziegler\n                   -Telephone call to New York\n                   -The President’s photograph\n\nRace relations [?]\n     -Robert C. Byrd\n     -George C. Wallace\n     -Appointments\n     -Julie Nixon Eisenhower\n     -Blacks\n\n1972 election\n     -John D. Ehrlichman, Haldeman\n     -Congress\n     -George S. McGovern\n\nRogers\n     -Foreign trip\n           -Negotiation\n     -Haldeman\n     -Charles W. Colson\n\nSecond term reorganization\n\f                                             -26-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                            Conversation No. 228-2 (cont’d)\n\n             -George D. Webster\n                   -Internal Revenue Service [IRS]\n             -John A. Scali\n                   -Ambassador to the United Nations [UN]\n             -Howard (“Bo”) Calloway\n\n[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n*****************************************************************","filename":["228-002.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. 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The recording captures his reflections on personnel management, including potential changes to the Republican National Committee and cabinet-level shifts, as well as strategies for managing his public image and press relations. Additionally, the President assesses the effectiveness of key advisors and evaluates potential appointments for his second term, including considerations for the United Nations and the Internal Revenue Service.","topics":["1972 election","Second term reorganization","Public relations","Personnel appointments","Republican National Committee"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T11:01:33.662Z"},"topicSlugs":["1972-election","second-term-reorganization","public-relations","personnel-appointments","republican-national-committee"],"audioDurationSec":526,"audioFiles":[{"file":"228-002.mp3","bytes":12630547,"durationSec":526.15,"bitrate":192046,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.205Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:07.501Z","transcriptGapSeconds":311,"transcriptGapShare":0.59,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/228-002.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/228-002","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/228/conversation-228-002","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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