{"conversationCode":"228-003","tapeNumber":228,"conversationNumber":3,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-228-003","startDateTime":"1972-11-20T18:42:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-20T18:46:00.000Z","startDate":"20-Nov-1972","startTime":"1:42 PM","endDate":"20-Nov-1972","endTime":"1:46 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On November 20, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 1:42 pm to 1:46 pm. 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(\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"228-002","nextCode":"228-004","transcript":[{"start":0.23,"end":4.34,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":4.38,"end":4.6,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":5.26,"end":23.54,"text":"You can guess what I hear people on this, just so they can get the whole thing rolling."},{"start":23.56,"end":24,"text":"The entire trip is on."},{"start":24.02,"end":26.28,"text":"And I would like to have the appointments ready here as early as possible so that we can see what I've got to do."},{"start":26.3,"end":26.78,"text":"Close over to the field."},{"start":26.8,"end":28.07,"text":"We could go down there tonight and have the appointments there."},{"start":28.09,"end":28.81,"text":"I think that's the best thing to do."},{"start":29.29,"end":51.44,"text":"so you want to invite them still early or soon, because they want to show up Friday afternoon."},{"start":51.46,"end":54.2,"text":"If you are, I'd like, I will stay, I will stay Friday, I will stay at a parking, we'll leave at approximately 11 o'clock or so, or 12."},{"start":54.22,"end":54.58,"text":"We'll leave by 11."},{"start":54.6,"end":54.92,"text":"To, uh, tonight."},{"start":54.94,"end":56.81,"text":"Oh, Tricia, all of, all will be going, including two, she will report me for a bedroom suite."},{"start":56.83,"end":59.03,"text":"If the presidential is open, fine, and I'm looking at practice, one of their four bedroom suites at the local."},{"start":59.82,"end":86.2,"text":"You can say you're going to New York now, and they'll say, why the hell did you do that?"},{"start":86.67,"end":105.24,"text":"He's going to New York and what about Kissinger and all that and so forth and so on."},{"start":105.26,"end":107.01,"text":"We'll do it Friday morning and then indicate and we will be there and we'll meet there."},{"start":107.03,"end":107.55,"text":"That's where we'll end up."},{"start":107.57,"end":111.09,"text":"Let's not tell Ron anything because right now we just have the appointment made."},{"start":111.11,"end":111.31,"text":"All right."},{"start":111.33,"end":113.71,"text":"Are we able to get Mitchell yet?"},{"start":113.73,"end":114.33,"text":"Any suggestions or any orders?"},{"start":114.35,"end":114.73,"text":"I'll just hold him."},{"start":115.83,"end":136.56,"text":"Oh, one other thing."},{"start":136.58,"end":137.16,"text":"Is Rockefeller going to come?"},{"start":137.18,"end":137.28,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":137.3,"end":137.84,"text":"I don't need to have Scott."},{"start":137.86,"end":138.64,"text":"I haven't talked to him in a long time."},{"start":138.66,"end":140.16,"text":"There's something to say that I have Goldwater here and I have Rockefeller."},{"start":140.18,"end":140.6,"text":"And Elliot and Roger."},{"start":141.43,"end":157.31,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H. 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