{"conversationCode":"229-014","tapeNumber":229,"conversationNumber":14,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-229-014","startDateTime":"1972-11-21T18:35:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-21T19:09:00.000Z","startDate":"21-Nov-1972","startTime":"1:35 PM","endDate":"21-Nov-1972","endTime":"2:09 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Brennan, John V.;","description":"On November 21, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and John V. Brennan met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:35 pm and 2:09 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 229-014 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 229-14\n\nDate: November 21, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 1:35 pm and 2:09 pm\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President met with John V. (“Jack”) Brennan.\n\n       The President’s Schedule\n            -Meeting with Dr. James R. Schlesinger\n\nBrennan left at an unknown time before 2:09 pm.","filename":["229-014.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Brennan, John V."],"prevCode":"229-013","nextCode":"229-015","transcript":[{"start":0.23,"end":4.79,"text":"So you scheduled to see Dr. Slussman there?"},{"start":4.81,"end":5.05,"text":"Pretty much."},{"start":5.07,"end":5.7,"text":"You would be worried about him?"},{"start":5.71,"end":5.78,"text":"No."},{"start":5.8,"end":5.86,"text":"No."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with John V. Brennan regarding an upcoming meeting with Dr. James R. Schlesinger. The discussion centered on assessing Schlesinger’s temperament and potential concerns, with Brennan providing reassurance about the interaction. This brief exchange served as a preparatory briefing for the President prior to his engagement with Schlesinger.","topics":["James R. Schlesinger","White House personnel","Presidential briefings","Administration strategy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T11:03:22.648Z"},"topicSlugs":["james-r-schlesinger","white-house-personnel","presidential-briefings","administration-strategy"],"audioDurationSec":11,"audioFiles":[{"file":"229-014.mp3","bytes":261058,"durationSec":10.76,"bitrate":194095,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.205Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/229-014.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/229-014","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/229/conversation-229-014","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}