Conversation 230-001

TapeTape 230StartTuesday, November 21, 1972 at 7:55 PMEndTuesday, November 21, 1972 at 7:58 PMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Ehrlichman, John D.Recording deviceCamp David Hard Wire

On November 21, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 7:55 pm to 7:58 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 230-001 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 230-1

Date: November 21, 1972
Time: 7:55 pm - 7:58 pm
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

The President talked with John D. Ehrlichman.

       [See Conversation No. 155-27; one item has been withdrawn from this conversation.]

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Yeah, hi.
Fine, good.
Well, we'll try to get Bill down and sort of gracefully now.
Provided he doesn't build up some sort of a backfire with you.
But he's got to understand it and do it.
He's getting Milwaukee excited.
That's what's happening right now.
You have nothing, you don't know really what the hell Obi-Wan is.
My own view is that I have thought that what you really want to do is just to say, you know, master the Italy, give it the time to make the change, and so forth.
It may be that the other possibilities
Yeah, he has not indicated anything.
He really hasn't been too well or anything.
What you're feeling, we ought to be hardlining him, don't you think?
Huh?
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, good.
Thanks, that's good work.