Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 230-004
Date: Tuesday, November 21, 1972 at 7:58 PM
Participants: Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan); United States Secret Service agents; Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan); United States Secret Service agents
Recording device: Camp David Hard Wire
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/230-004

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[0:00] Oh, well, you know, uh, I mentioned to Dick about, uh, you know, about security, and he said he didn't, he didn't know if it was announced.
[0:15] You know, like, if I'm going to a public thing, that's announced.
[0:19] And, uh, you know, somebody sent me a, almost every story is written in black, like, because they all always talk about big security, and,
[0:26] You know, it's quite a nice story overall, but then it isn't talking about the great security and that when it was told I was coming that I had asked for 65 rooms at that end.
[0:51] Well, of course, we had all that pressure, but they don't ever point that out.
[0:54] And it sounded like it was all here.
[0:58] Oh, I missed about that, but anyway.
[1:00] And he said, you know, I go to Art, and the guy changed times, and I never go.
[1:06] They never tell anyone anyway.
[1:15] And I was like, I need support.
[1:18] What do you think?
[1:20] I think, of course, when it is announced, you know, that you need more.
[1:22] And I think he was off the record.
[1:22] I don't know.
[1:23] I don't know.
[1:24] So here's the only problem that we have with that is that a certain number are, you know, for the president.
[1:38] Yeah, well, they're not.
[1:39] But I don't need any.
[1:41] I'm not going to do anything.
[1:42] I'm going to go along and walk.
[1:43] Well, that, you know, of course, we don't want to leave.
[1:46] Yeah.
[1:47] But if the president had to, you know, for some reason, had to leave unexpectedly, you know, we'll go with him.
[1:50] So if you, for some reason, had to get back to Washington, you know, we'll go with him for some reason.
[1:53] And then also see when the girls come.
[1:57] You know, we just want to get...
[2:02] I understand.
[2:04] I really do.
[2:05] And I want to do whatever I can.
[2:07] Yeah, well, I don't need anything.
[2:08] You know, I don't have any of that.
[2:11] I don't have any of that.
[2:13] I don't have a car and everything.
[2:13] Of course, we have our own seats.
[2:14] Of course, they can be daddy, but...
[2:18] Okay, so...
[2:20] Well, I know that I do, as I've told you before, and I understand what you're feeling about it.
[2:35] The answer is, you know, I can give you my recommendations.
[2:37] Well, let's just keep it as low as we possibly can.
[2:39] I hope you think that I try to do it.
[2:41] Oh, I know that.
[2:42] I do.
[2:42] But I do feel that there's just too many people who try to do it.
[2:44] And, you know, for example, when I come here, you're being there, or someone's being there, and I just want to try it.
[2:49] way to do it you know for us to do what we have to do so that was the one man otherwise but you know i think that is the easiest thing you know all of your time and you're trying everything but i just don't need so much and you know there's no other way out we're so boxed in anyway you know
[3:18] And you know, we never get wet.
[3:34] It's just stressful.
[3:36] You know, we have to have somebody.
[3:38] You know, we see that.
[3:40] I have to be safe.
[3:42] I have to be safe.
[3:43] I have to be safe.
[3:44] I have to be safe.
[3:45] I have to be safe.
[3:46] And the house painted and all that.
[3:48] I think you're all just great people.
[3:56] You wouldn't be in this service otherwise.
[4:04] I mean, if you take your kids into country, you don't get paid that much.
[4:13] But just think whole of them and me.
[4:16] I just don't want them.
[4:18] Thank you for your time.