{"conversationCode":"230-005","tapeNumber":230,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-230-005","startDateTime":"1972-11-22T00:58:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-22T15:52:00.000Z","startDate":"21-Nov-1972","startTime":"7:58 PM","endDate":"22-Nov-1972","endTime":"10:52 AM","dateCertainty":"estimated","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"[Unknown person(s)];","description":"Unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 7:58 pm on November 21, 1972 and 10:52 am on November 22, 1972. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 230-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 230-5\n\nDate: November 21 or 22, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 7:58 pm, November 21, 1972 before 10:52 am, November 22, 1972\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nAn unknown person talked with an unknown person.\n\n      Lunch","filename":["230-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"230-004","nextCode":"230-006","transcript":[{"start":0.25,"end":8.01,"text":"Would you care to hear what I'm saying?"},{"start":8.03,"end":13.13,"text":"I have to hear it."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"An unidentified meeting occurs at the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David, involving at least two participants who engage in a brief, informal exchange. The conversation centers on a shared meal or lunch setting, though the audio provides no substantial policy or political context. The recording concludes without any recorded developments or significant administrative decisions.","topics":["Camp David","Informal discussion","Unidentified participants"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T11:03:56.513Z"},"topicSlugs":["camp-david","informal-discussion","unidentified-participants"],"audioDurationSec":13,"audioFiles":[{"file":"230-005.mp3","bytes":317504,"durationSec":13.09,"bitrate":193994,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.205Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/230-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/230-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/230/conversation-230-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}