{"conversationCode":"230-012","tapeNumber":230,"conversationNumber":12,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-230-012","startDateTime":"1972-11-22T15:52:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-22T15:56:00.000Z","startDate":"22-Nov-1972","startTime":"10:52 AM","endDate":"22-Nov-1972","endTime":"10:56 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary;","description":"On November 22, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 10:52 am to 10:56 am. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 230-012 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 230-12\n\nDate: November 22, 1972\nTime: Between 10:52 am and 10:56 am\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President talked with Rose Mary Woods.\n\n[See Conversation No. 155-29]","filename":["230-012.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Woods, Rose Mary"],"prevCode":"230-011","nextCode":"230-013","transcript":[{"start":0.28,"end":26.86,"text":"i had an idea rose i don't know whether it's uh which might feel converting one stone it might be just a thought to where they all murder and for no rose you had an owner there you know all the owners all these people because he's the one who brought me down and introduced me to them all what do you think i think it'd be a nice thought"},{"start":30.3,"end":33.13,"text":"I can't go because I can't run to a ride down there."},{"start":33.55,"end":36.71,"text":"It was a terrible situation."},{"start":37.27,"end":44.96,"text":"We checked it out."},{"start":45.06,"end":49.15,"text":"It's very bad."},{"start":49.17,"end":49.73,"text":"It's the wrong part of town."},{"start":49.75,"end":53.39,"text":"We'll have somebody else go."},{"start":53.41,"end":54.07,"text":"I cannot go to that."},{"start":54.09,"end":54.81,"text":"But I'll work it out."},{"start":54.83,"end":56.62,"text":"I think maybe they'll have other clients."},{"start":57.9,"end":58.17,"text":"Right."},{"start":58.68,"end":59.16,"text":"So I agree."},{"start":59.18,"end":59.74,"text":"We won't do that."},{"start":59.9,"end":62.28,"text":"I'll work the other thing out."},{"start":62.3,"end":62.46,"text":"I agree."},{"start":62.48,"end":67.89,"text":"Because we can't go there and have his event spoiled by having a bunch of people outside shouting."},{"start":67.91,"end":69.57,"text":"That's what's going to happen."},{"start":70.97,"end":71.89,"text":"You know where that is."},{"start":71.91,"end":74.92,"text":"It's in the worst part of town."},{"start":74.94,"end":78.06,"text":"And it's going to happen just as sure as hell."},{"start":78.08,"end":83.43,"text":"And that could be not as much."},{"start":83.55,"end":85.39,"text":"You see it's 80% Jewish."},{"start":86.75,"end":90.72,"text":"It's going to be rough, rough as hell."},{"start":92.05,"end":93.87,"text":"But I'll get past it."},{"start":93.89,"end":97.06,"text":"I'll get past it good."},{"start":97.34,"end":98.11,"text":"Don't do it."},{"start":98.13,"end":98.97,"text":"Don't do it good."},{"start":98.99,"end":99.21,"text":"Okay."},{"start":99.73,"end":100.37,"text":"Work it out."},{"start":100.39,"end":100.47,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and his personal secretary, Rose Mary Woods, discuss the logistical risks of attending a scheduled event in a neighborhood described as volatile. Concerned about the potential for hostile protests and public disruption, the two agree that the President should not attend the function in person. Nixon instructs Woods to find a way to gracefully cancel his attendance while ensuring the event's organizers are accommodated through other means.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Security concerns","Public relations","Rose Mary Woods","Protest management"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T11:04:34.515Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","security-concerns","public-relations","rose-mary-woods","protest-management"],"audioDurationSec":105,"audioFiles":[{"file":"230-012.mp3","bytes":2529319,"durationSec":105.27,"bitrate":192221,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.205Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/230-012.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/230-012","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/230/conversation-230-012","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}