{"conversationCode":"230-018","tapeNumber":230,"conversationNumber":18,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-230-018","startDateTime":"1972-11-23T00:07:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-23T20:36:00.000Z","startDate":"22-Nov-1972","startTime":"7:07 PM","endDate":"23-Nov-1972","endTime":"3:36 PM","dateCertainty":"estimated","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan); Eisenhower, Julie Nixon;","description":"President Richard M. Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan) Nixon, and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 7:07 pm on November 22, 1972 and 3:36 pm on November 23, 1972. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 230-018 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 230-18\n\nDate: November 22 or 23, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 7:07 pm, November 22, 1972 and 3:36 pm, November 23, 1972\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President [?] met with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower.\n\f                                            -11-\n\n                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                           Conversation No. 230-18 (cont’d)\n\n******************************************************************************\n[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n\n       Unknown item\n           -Location\n\n[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n****************************************************************************\n\nMrs. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower left at unknown time before 3:36 pm, November 23,\n1972.","filename":["230-018.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan)","Eisenhower, Julie Nixon"],"prevCode":"230-017","nextCode":"230-019","transcript":[{"start":0.37,"end":13.15,"text":"Where's your closet?"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon, Pat Nixon, and Julie Nixon Eisenhower gathered in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David for an informal family meeting. The discussion focused on private domestic matters, specifically concerning the location of a closet. No substantive policy or political decisions were recorded during this brief exchange.","topics":["Camp David","Pat Nixon","Julie Nixon Eisenhower","Family","Domestic affairs"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T11:05:06.454Z"},"topicSlugs":["camp-david","pat-nixon","julie-nixon-eisenhower","family","domestic-affairs"],"audioDurationSec":18,"audioFiles":[{"file":"230-018.mp3","bytes":434133,"durationSec":17.96,"bitrate":193377,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.205Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:07.834Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/230-018.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/230-018","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/230/conversation-230-018","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}