{"conversationCode":"231-015","tapeNumber":231,"conversationNumber":15,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-231-015","startDateTime":"1972-11-28T12:50:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-28T17:14:00.000Z","startDate":"28-Nov-1972","startTime":"7:50 AM","endDate":"28-Nov-1972","endTime":"12:14 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Rebozo, Charles G. (\"Bebe\");","description":"On November 28, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles G. (\"Bebe\") Rebozo met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 7:50 am and 12:14 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 231-015 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 231-15\n\nDate: November 28, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 7:50 am and 12:14 pm\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President talked with Charles G. (\"Bebe\") Rebozo.\n\f                                            -9-\n\n                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                            Conversation No. 231-15 (cont’d)\n\n[See Conversation No. 156-10]","filename":["231-015.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Rebozo, Charles G. (\"Bebe\")"],"prevCode":"231-014","nextCode":"231-016","transcript":[{"start":0.23,"end":17.71,"text":"I wonder if you would give Paul Keyes a call."},{"start":17.73,"end":28.22,"text":"He was planning to come, and I think you should tell him that because Henry discussed it with Don and Joseph Smith, I don't really think that it would be useful."},{"start":28.24,"end":29.89,"text":"Don't you think so?"},{"start":29.91,"end":30.11,"text":"Or do you?"},{"start":32.68,"end":43.09,"text":"I'm going to be here because I will be able to spend that time and distance with you."},{"start":43.21,"end":46.78,"text":"It doesn't make that much difference to you at all."},{"start":47.26,"end":54.46,"text":"But if you could just call in and say, look, Paul, the president is going to set camp, David, and I want you to know that you will be in touch with him as soon as he's gone."},{"start":54.72,"end":59.15,"text":"You can tell him that you're driving hard to get me down after the weekend, that I've got to wait until the Vietnam is wrapped up."},{"start":59.17,"end":59.53,"text":"How's that?"},{"start":59.65,"end":60.59,"text":"Good."},{"start":60.61,"end":60.97,"text":"You can hear me."},{"start":63.02,"end":66.76,"text":"Yes, I'm going to go."},{"start":66.78,"end":68.12,"text":"Yeah, which isn't quite out that I did."},{"start":68.14,"end":70.31,"text":"I told him I wanted to go to the weekend at Walker's."},{"start":70.33,"end":73.6,"text":"He said, I can't do it, but I've got to do it."},{"start":73.62,"end":75.57,"text":"This has to be a weekend with Jessica and Schultz."},{"start":75.59,"end":75.89,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon tasks his close friend Charles \"Bebe\" Rebozo with canceling a planned visit from television writer Paul Keyes. Nixon explains that the meeting is unnecessary due to prior discussions between Henry Kissinger, Don, and Joseph Smith, and he asks Rebozo to frame the cancellation around his need to focus on wrapping up the Vietnam situation. This informal exchange highlights the President’s reliance on Rebozo to manage personal logistics and communicate professional priorities while Nixon remained at Camp David.","topics":["Paul Keyes","Vietnam War","Henry Kissinger","Camp David","Presidential scheduling","Bebe Rebozo"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T11:07:35.161Z"},"topicSlugs":["paul-keyes","vietnam-war","henry-kissinger","camp-david","presidential-scheduling","bebe-rebozo"],"audioDurationSec":83,"audioFiles":[{"file":"231-015.mp3","bytes":1990157,"durationSec":82.79,"bitrate":192316,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.206Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:08.009Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/231-015.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/231-015","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/231/conversation-231-015","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}