{"conversationCode":"233-015","tapeNumber":233,"conversationNumber":15,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-233-015","startDateTime":"1972-12-06T20:31:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-06T21:40:00.000Z","startDate":"6-Dec-1972","startTime":"3:31 PM","endDate":"6-Dec-1972","endTime":"4:40 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On December 6, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 3:31 pm and 4:40 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 233-015 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 233-015\nDate: December 6, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 3:31 pm and 4:40 pm\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\nThe President talked with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.\n[See Conversation No. 157-9]","filename":["233-015.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"233-014","nextCode":"233-016","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":3.11,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":3.13,"end":3.23,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":3.25,"end":9.8,"text":"One other thing, if you would tell Steve or whoever's that I should have covered earlier."},{"start":10.16,"end":20.23,"text":"I was talking to Pat, and she said that Rose had been called and asked whether anything was being set up for the rallies."},{"start":20.25,"end":25.4,"text":"And I said, well, I don't think there was something, but Sunday afternoon."},{"start":26.05,"end":48.73,"text":"What I mean is that be sure that Steve or whoever is in charge of that schedule, it lets her know what these events are so that she knows that there's going to be an event for several days or whatever."},{"start":48.75,"end":50.31,"text":"And that the relative event is going to be on Sunday afternoon."},{"start":50.33,"end":51.77,"text":"There's going to be a church service and so forth and so on and so on."},{"start":52.23,"end":53.71,"text":"Also pointing out that she doesn't get involved too much in the listening."},{"start":56.93,"end":58.68,"text":"I see."},{"start":58.7,"end":64.13,"text":"Well, apparently, she didn't approve."},{"start":64.15,"end":64.35,"text":"I'm sure."},{"start":64.51,"end":64.87,"text":"Fine."},{"start":64.89,"end":66.03,"text":"Well, I see what it's trying to do."},{"start":66.05,"end":74.91,"text":"Maybe she is clued in on one word, that we are going to do all these events or something."},{"start":74.93,"end":75.07,"text":"I see."},{"start":75.09,"end":75.33,"text":"Okay."},{"start":75.87,"end":76.07,"text":"Fine."},{"start":76.15,"end":77.79,"text":"This thing's garbage."},{"start":77.81,"end":79.72,"text":"All right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H. R. Haldeman discuss the management of First Lady Pat Nixon's schedule and her communication with personal secretary Rose Mary Woods regarding upcoming public appearances and rallies. Nixon expresses concern that his wife lacks sufficient information about scheduled events, specifically a planned Sunday church service, and requests that staff ensure she is better informed. The conversation concludes with the President dismissing the technical quality of the recording equipment as the two coordinate these logistical administrative details.","topics":["Pat Nixon","H. R. Haldeman","Scheduling","White House staff management","Rose Mary Woods"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T11:11:02.289Z"},"topicSlugs":["pat-nixon","h-r-haldeman","scheduling","white-house-staff-management","rose-mary-woods"],"audioDurationSec":80,"audioFiles":[{"file":"233-015.mp3","bytes":3192999,"durationSec":79.68,"bitrate":320576,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.206Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/233-015.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/233-015","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/233/conversation-233-015","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}