{"conversationCode":"235-002","tapeNumber":235,"conversationNumber":2,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-235-002","startDateTime":"1972-12-09T15:30:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-09T17:22:00.000Z","startDate":"9-Dec-1972","startTime":"10:30 AM","endDate":"9-Dec-1972","endTime":"12:22 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Eisenhower, Julie Nixon;","description":"On December 9, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:30 am and 12:22 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 235-002 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 235-2\n\nDate: December 9, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 10:30 am and 12:22 pm\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President met with Julie Nixon Eisenhower.\n\n*****************************************************************\n\f                                               -2-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                             Conversation No 235-2 (cont’d)\n\n[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gifts]\n\n       Ronald L. Ziegler\n            -Discussion with the President\n\n[End of segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n*****************************************************************\n\nJulie Nixon Eisenhower left at an unknown time before 12:22 pm","filename":["235-002.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Eisenhower, Julie Nixon"],"prevCode":"235-001","nextCode":"235-003","transcript":[{"start":0.28,"end":17.39,"text":"Well, I do think you should talk to Ron."},{"start":17.55,"end":20.79,"text":"If you would talk to him and ask him what he thinks of the idea."},{"start":20.81,"end":21.73,"text":"Privately."},{"start":22.05,"end":22.52,"text":"I will."},{"start":23.04,"end":23.46,"text":"Let me know."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and his daughter, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, met at Camp David to discuss the President's upcoming consultation with Press Secretary Ron Ziegler. Julie encouraged her father to solicit Ziegler's private perspective on an unspecified proposal or idea. The President agreed to speak with Ziegler and keep his daughter informed of the outcome.","topics":["Ron Ziegler","Presidential communication","White House staff","Advice"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T11:13:42.673Z"},"topicSlugs":["ron-ziegler","presidential-communication","white-house-staff","advice"],"audioDurationSec":28,"audioFiles":[{"file":"235-002.mp3","bytes":682097,"durationSec":28.27,"bitrate":193046,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.206Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:08.719Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/235-002.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/235-002","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/235/conversation-235-002","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}