{"conversationCode":"236-002","tapeNumber":236,"conversationNumber":2,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-236-002","startDateTime":"1972-12-10T12:30:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-10T13:30:00.000Z","startDate":"10-Dec-1972","startTime":"7:30 AM","endDate":"10-Dec-1972","endTime":"8:30 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Hirsch, William; [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On December 10, 1972, William Hirsch and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 7:30 am and 8:30 am. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 236-002 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 236-2\n\nDate: December 10, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 7:30 am and 8:30 am\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nWilliam Hirsch talked with an unknown person.\n\n       Request for a briefcase\n\n       The President’s trip to the People’s Republic of China [PRC]\n\n       Request to with an unknown person\n\n       Camp David operator\n\f                                            -2-\n\n                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM","filename":["236-002.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Hirsch, William","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"236-001","nextCode":"236-003","transcript":[{"start":11.49,"end":19.57,"text":"It's her."},{"start":19.59,"end":33.72,"text":"I want to talk to her."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"William Hirsch met with an unknown individual at Camp David to facilitate administrative logistical requests, including the retrieval of a briefcase. The conversation also touched upon details regarding President Nixon’s historic trip to the People's Republic of China. The participants coordinated through the Camp David operator to arrange further communication with a specific female contact.","topics":["Camp David","Presidential travel","People's Republic of China","Logistics","Briefcase"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T11:16:04.084Z"},"topicSlugs":["camp-david","presidential-travel","peoples-republic-of-china","logistics","briefcase"],"audioDurationSec":34,"audioFiles":[{"file":"236-002.mp3","bytes":811247,"durationSec":33.67,"bitrate":192771,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.206Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:08.888Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/236-002.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/236-002","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/236/conversation-236-002","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}