{"conversationCode":"237-008","tapeNumber":237,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-237-008","startDateTime":"1972-12-29T03:07:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-30T03:48:00.000Z","startDate":"28-Dec-1972","startTime":"10:07 PM","endDate":"29-Dec-1972","endTime":"10:48 PM","dateCertainty":"estimated","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Hirsch, William;","description":"President Richard M. Nixon and William Hirsch met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 10:07 pm on December 28, 1972 and 10:48 pm on December 29, 1972. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 237-008 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 237-8\n\nDate: December 28 or 29, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 10:07 pm, December 28, 1972 and 10:48 am, December 29, 1972\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President met with William Hirsch.\n\n       Preparation of fire in fireplace\n\n       Christmas decorations\n             -Hirsch's role\n\nHirsch left at an unknown time before 10:48 am, December 29, 1972.\n\f                                               -6-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM","filename":["237-008.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Hirsch, William"],"prevCode":"237-007","nextCode":"237-009","transcript":[{"start":1.16,"end":30.97,"text":"You're decorations are really very very good."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with William Hirsch at the Aspen Lodge during the holiday season to discuss the residence's atmosphere. The conversation focused on the quality of the Christmas decorations, for which Hirsch held responsibility, and the maintenance of the fireplace. No major policy decisions were made during this informal exchange.","topics":["Camp David","Christmas decorations","Facility management","White House residence"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T11:16:53.646Z"},"topicSlugs":["camp-david","christmas-decorations","facility-management","white-house-residence"],"audioDurationSec":36,"audioFiles":[{"file":"237-008.mp3","bytes":860176,"durationSec":35.69,"bitrate":192792,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.205Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:09.052Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/237-008.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/237-008","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/237/conversation-237-008","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}