{"conversationCode":"238-002","tapeNumber":238,"conversationNumber":2,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-238-002","startDateTime":"1972-12-30T16:42:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-30T16:51:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Dec-1972","startTime":"11:42 AM","endDate":"30-Dec-1972","endTime":"11:51 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan);","description":"On December 30, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:42 am and 11:51 am. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 238-002 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 238-2\n\nDate: December 30, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 11:42 am and 11:51 am\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President met with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.\n\n*****************************************************************\n[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n\n       The President’s schedule\n            -Travel arrangements\n                  -Question\n                  -Timing\n\n[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n*****************************************************************\n\nMrs. Nixon left at an unknown time before 11:51 am.\n\f                                             -2-\n\n                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM","filename":["238-002.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan)"],"prevCode":"238-001","nextCode":"238-003","transcript":[{"start":6.05,"end":18.74,"text":"No, I'll tell him what situation."},{"start":18.76,"end":19.3,"text":"I mean, tell him the time."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and First Lady Pat Nixon met at Camp David to coordinate upcoming travel arrangements and logistical planning. They discussed the specific timing and scheduling requirements for these engagements. The brief exchange focused on finalizing the details of their itinerary.","topics":["Pat Nixon","Travel arrangements","Camp David","Schedule coordination"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T11:21:39.435Z"},"topicSlugs":["pat-nixon","travel-arrangements","camp-david","schedule-coordination"],"audioDurationSec":27,"audioFiles":[{"file":"238-002.mp3","bytes":640094,"durationSec":26.53,"bitrate":192993,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.481Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:09.226Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/238-002.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/238-002","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/238/conversation-238-002","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}