{"conversationCode":"238-005","tapeNumber":238,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-238-005","startDateTime":"1972-12-30T16:52:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-30T16:52:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Dec-1972","startTime":"11:52 AM","endDate":"30-Dec-1972","endTime":"11:52 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Camp David Operator;","description":"On December 30, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at 11:52 am. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 238-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 238-5\n\nDate: December 30, 1972\nTime: 11:52 am\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President talked with the Camp David operator.\n\n[See Conversation No. 158-43]\n\f                                               -3-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM","filename":["238-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Camp David Operator"],"prevCode":"238-004","nextCode":"238-006","transcript":[{"start":0.5,"end":3.51,"text":"and Nell Yates took it."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with the Camp David operator regarding a technical or administrative matter involving telephone communications. The brief interaction focused on the handling of specific incoming calls and the identity of personnel involved in routing them. No major policy decisions were reached, as the discussion remained limited to telephonic logistical operations.","topics":["Camp David","Telecommunications","White House logistics","Administration"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T11:21:55.530Z"},"topicSlugs":["camp-david","telecommunications","white-house-logistics","administration"],"audioDurationSec":14,"audioFiles":[{"file":"238-005.mp3","bytes":339116,"durationSec":13.99,"bitrate":193965,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.481Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:09.226Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/238-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/238-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/238/conversation-238-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}