{"conversationCode":"238-016","tapeNumber":238,"conversationNumber":16,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-238-016","startDateTime":"1972-12-30T17:38:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-30T17:40:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Dec-1972","startTime":"12:38 PM","endDate":"30-Dec-1972","endTime":"12:40 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Sanchez, Manolo;","description":"On December 30, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 12:38 pm and 12:40 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 238-016 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 238-16\n\nDate: December 30, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 12:38 pm and 12:40 pm\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President met with Manolo Sanchez.\n\n*****************************************************************\n[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n\n       Refreshment\n            -Amount\n\n       Football game\n            -Timing\n\n[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n*****************************************************************\n\nSanchez left at an unknown time before 12:40 p.m.\n\f                                                -7-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM","filename":["238-016.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Sanchez, Manolo"],"prevCode":"238-015","nextCode":"238-017","transcript":[{"start":0.42,"end":10.3,"text":"Well, I'd like a little cheese and crackers, but not too much, but half what we had yesterday, Commissioner."},{"start":10.32,"end":10.5,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":10.52,"end":11.98,"text":"A little cheese and crackers."},{"start":12,"end":12.18,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":12.2,"end":14.45,"text":"Did you know you have a good, cool game at 4 o'clock?"},{"start":14.47,"end":14.95,"text":"Yeah, what o'clock to?"},{"start":14.97,"end":16.89,"text":"I don't know, but at 4 o'clock, I've already started."},{"start":16.91,"end":17.41,"text":"Go away, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his personal aide, Manolo Sanchez, at Camp David to manage his refreshment requests and discuss the afternoon's television schedule. The President directed Sanchez to bring a smaller portion of cheese and crackers than the previous day's serving. Additionally, the two briefly coordinated the timing of an upcoming football game scheduled for 4:00 p.m.","topics":["Camp David","Manolo Sanchez","Presidential staff","daily schedule","refreshments"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T11:22:56.852Z"},"topicSlugs":["camp-david","manolo-sanchez","presidential-staff","daily-schedule","refreshments"],"audioDurationSec":26,"audioFiles":[{"file":"238-016.mp3","bytes":631316,"durationSec":26.16,"bitrate":193062,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.481Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:09.228Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/238-016.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/238-016","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/238/conversation-238-016","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}