{"conversationCode":"238-017","tapeNumber":238,"conversationNumber":17,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-238-017","startDateTime":"1972-12-30T17:40:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-30T17:40:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Dec-1972","startTime":"12:40 PM","endDate":"30-Dec-1972","endTime":"12:40 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Camp David Operator;","description":"On December 30, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at 12:40 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 238-017 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 238-17\n\nDate: December 30, 1972\nTime: 12:40 pm\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President talked with the Camp David operator.\n\n[See Conversation No. 158-54]","filename":["238-017.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Camp David Operator"],"prevCode":"238-016","nextCode":"238-018","transcript":[{"start":3.93,"end":7.33,"text":"Oh, he's probably, no, not necessary."},{"start":7.91,"end":8.76,"text":"Not necessary, I'll call him."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon communicated with the Camp David operator regarding the status of a potential phone call. The President determined that an immediate call was not necessary, deciding instead to initiate the contact himself at a later time. The brief exchange served as a logistical coordination effort for the President's personal and official communications while at Camp David.","topics":["Camp David","Presidential communications","logistics","scheduling"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T11:23:02.269Z"},"topicSlugs":["camp-david","presidential-communications","logistics","scheduling"],"audioDurationSec":19,"audioFiles":[{"file":"238-017.mp3","bytes":447579,"durationSec":18.52,"bitrate":193338,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.481Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/238-017.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/238-017","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/238/conversation-238-017","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}