{"conversationCode":"238-029","tapeNumber":238,"conversationNumber":29,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-238-029","startDateTime":"1972-12-30T18:20:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-30T18:30:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Dec-1972","startTime":"1:20 PM","endDate":"30-Dec-1972","endTime":"1:30 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan);","description":"On December 30, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:20 pm and 1:30 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 238-029 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 238-29\n\nDate: December 30, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 1:20 pm and 1:30 pm\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President met with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.\n\n        The President’s schedule\n             -Swimming\n             -Dinner\n                   -Timing\n\nMrs. Nixon left at an unknown time between 1:20 pm and 1:30 pm.","filename":["238-029.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan)"],"prevCode":"238-028","nextCode":"238-030","transcript":[{"start":1.18,"end":1.76,"text":"All right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Richard Nixon met with First Lady Pat Nixon at the Aspen Lodge study to coordinate their personal schedule at Camp David. The discussion centered on timing for recreational activities, specifically planning a swimming session and establishing an agenda for the evening meal. No significant policy decisions were reached, as the conversation focused exclusively on the presidential couple's domestic itinerary.","topics":["Camp David","Pat Nixon","Presidential schedule","Daily routine"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T11:24:10.801Z"},"topicSlugs":["camp-david","pat-nixon","presidential-schedule","daily-routine"],"audioDurationSec":17,"audioFiles":[{"file":"238-029.mp3","bytes":406245,"durationSec":16.77,"bitrate":193757,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.481Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/238-029.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/238-029","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/238/conversation-238-029","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}