{"conversationCode":"239-005","tapeNumber":239,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-239-005","startDateTime":"1973-01-06T01:31:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-01-06T01:47:00.000Z","startDate":"5-Jan-1973","startTime":"8:31 PM","endDate":"5-Jan-1973","endTime":"8:47 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Camp David Operator;","description":"On January 5, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 8:31 pm and 8:47 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 239-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.3","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part III","chronReleaseDate":"23-Jun-2009","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 239-5\n\nDate: January 5, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 8:31 pm and 8:47 pm\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President talked with the Camp David operator.\n\n[See Conversation No. 160-5]","filename":["239-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Camp David Operator"],"prevCode":"239-004","nextCode":"239-006","transcript":[{"start":0.57,"end":13.72,"text":"If he's at, you know, on a walker's or someplace, the radio don't get him, but if he's at a place on a normal phone, I'll talk to him."},{"start":13.74,"end":13.84,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with the Camp David operator to establish communication protocols for reaching a specific individual. The discussion focused on identifying viable contact methods, specifically determining whether the party could be reached via radio or if a standard telephone line was required. No substantive policy matters were addressed, as the conversation served purely as a logistical coordination for an outgoing call.","topics":["Telecommunications","Logistics","Camp David","Communication Protocols"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T11:24:44.494Z"},"topicSlugs":["telecommunications","logistics","camp-david","communication-protocols"],"audioDurationSec":22,"audioFiles":[{"file":"239-005.mp3","bytes":525247,"durationSec":21.75,"bitrate":193223,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.481Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/239-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/239-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/239/conversation-239-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}