Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 241-004
Date: Friday, February 2, 1973 at 3:43 PM
Participants: Sumrell, Charles C. ("Charlie"); [Unknown person(s)]; Sisco, Frank A.; Camp David Operator; Morlan, Farrell D.; Krell, Ruth L.
Recording device: Camp David Hard Wire
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/241-004
National Archives Catalog: https://catalog.archives.gov/id/417174803 (NAID 417174803)

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[0:00] I guess he takes care of that.
[0:19] Any changes or anything that might be left?
[0:29] Basically, what we're talking for is maturities.
[0:43] That's another reason why people never really got to be sensitive here and not take the prisoners like wastebasket or nothing.
[0:59] That's me.
[1:04] Important person, I know that.
[1:20] Yeah, put it somewhere else.
[1:23] Yeah, got it.
[1:24] Okay, thank you, thank you much.
[1:26] Where's the flag?
[1:26] The flag is right here.
[1:28] What's that?
[1:53] I don't know.
[1:59] Sound like we heard that, I mean...
[2:27] Thank you.
[4:12] Okay.
[5:12] Hey, he said nobody touched it.
[5:17] But did you take it?
[5:19] Well, did you check it?
[5:20] Yes, sir.
[5:21] You should have checked.
[5:24] Who checked it?
[5:25] Well, it was given to me, and I put it right square in the machine, and Doug handed it to me, and it was checked before that, I'm sure.
[5:34] What is it?
[5:35] It's music.
[5:36] Is it?
[5:46] I don't know what they've got that for.
[5:48] I don't know what that's for.
[5:56] That's cute.
[5:57] It's that for us.
[5:59] Just use it.
[5:59] You don't think they've got something to use tapes to?
[6:03] Well, I bet the tape should have been checked.
[6:05] Right?
[6:06] Because they're out there.
[6:07] Should I go through every one of them?
[6:08] Like, come in here?
[6:10] That's good.
[6:12] Because they've been open.
[6:14] Well...
[6:14] Some of them, I'll tell you, some of them were going fast.
[6:38] These were coming just like that.
[6:39] Now, the extension doesn't check for me, but I'm in the way of the extension.
[6:42] It doesn't have to be.
[7:06] Besides, somebody's recording it.
[7:07] I don't know if we're recording it at all.
[7:08] It must have been recorded on there.
[7:08] Uh, give me a second, please.
[7:09] Uh, it's...
[7:12] Yes.
[7:31] Okay.
[7:31] Well, I'll let you know when we come back.
[7:32] All right.
[7:32] Thank you.
[7:32] Thank you.
[7:34] So that's what I mean.
[7:54] We've got to go through all of them.
[7:57] Check every one of them.
[7:59] We've got 90s.
[8:04] 120, 60, 30.
[8:06] Is that all?
[8:12] I don't know if all of it is.
[8:33] I don't have any tape, but it's on like around 50-something tapes.
[8:40] Different hours.
[8:44] But if he did go to record something, he would erase it.
[8:49] He would erase that music.
[8:50] I know.
[8:52] That's the way it's going on.
[8:54] Sir, Gordon?
[8:56] Say, you know that damn recorder that I just got?
[8:58] I got a bunch of tapes from it.
[8:59] The president just left, and I was checking to see if there was anything on the tape.
[9:02] And this one here's got music on it.
[9:04] Weren't these supposed to be blank tapes you sent him?
[9:08] Uh, yesterday.
[9:11] I just got these Sony C9s.
[9:16] You know, I put out what I thought was two new tapes for him to use.
[9:24] Oh, it did?
[9:27] Huh?
[9:30] Francisco.
[9:32] No, well, this is the, uh, I just picked up the two C-90s yesterday down there.
[9:46] And I come in the jet to have a few glasses, saying, you know, he has about, uh,
[10:01] No, I didn't see that.
[10:02] 120.
[10:07] I got 160s.
[10:12] Well, this here says Scotch ABC 160 in 30 minutes size.
[10:18] That's what I've got.
[10:20] Well, I don't know.
[10:31] No, I didn't have any.
[10:43] See, I didn't have any reporters until I got this.
[10:48] Well, he was up there and he left.
[10:49] He's coming back tomorrow.
[10:52] And I was just wondering how in the devil I got paid for the music on.
[10:58] Okay, well, I think...
[11:00] I said, uh, well, if you're surprised, it's been two, uh, three recordings yesterday.
[11:07] He called me about it.
[11:09] Yeah, I got a tape from you yesterday.
[11:13] I think it's now dominant.
[11:15] Well, he got, I asked him to get the tapes yesterday.
[11:19] Well, I've got two down here with me.
[11:21] And one of them's got music over.
[11:23] I just put two out for the boss.
[11:29] We had earlier.
[11:32] No, sir.
[11:33] All those.
[11:34] We only had 30.
[11:36] That was, you know, give me to go in there.
[11:39] Well, I don't know.
[11:40] We picked him up yesterday.
[11:41] We picked him up yesterday.
[11:43] You know, the cassette.
[11:46] Well, what I told them is just get down there and see what they needed.
[11:52] And they bring back some of all of what the president of the United States.
[11:55] I haven't saw a message over anything.
[11:58] But then Garner brought back 20s, 30s, 60s, and 90s music.
[12:02] Yeah.
[12:02] Didn't even know I was so good.
[12:09] I think I reported to Colonel Adams, told him.
[12:17] C-120s.
[12:18] Okay.
[12:20] Okay.
[12:21] No, that's all right.
[12:22] Okay.
[12:23] C-20s, huh?
[12:25] C-120s.
[12:26] Well, I'll just pick up some of that.
[12:28] Okay.
[12:28] And then all this mess I've got here, I'll send it back to him because I don't want any of this to be recorded on.
[12:33] Yeah.
[12:34] It wasn't.
[12:35] I'll send it to him.
[12:36] We've got to check every one of them.
[12:42] Okay.
[12:42] I'll let you hear him for a test.
[12:44] I'll call you a little later.
[12:45] Now I'll get to see the 120s from the starters tomorrow.
[12:49] Okay.
[12:49] Thanks a lot, then.
[12:51] Follow this.
[12:52] He says, Morgan says there's a message out.
[12:54] The president don't want nothing but the C-120s.
[12:57] He says if we don't have enough, go downstairs and pick up the rest of it.
[13:03] How come it's covered in that same cover?
[13:08] Well, Doug says he had a checker taken and assumed they were good.
[13:12] They were brand new tapes.
[13:15] Okay, so we've got a whole bunch of 30s up there.
[13:19] Keep them for tests.
[13:21] Okay, I think, if I'm not mistaken, we've got about...
[13:26] I'll think about six.
[13:28] I'll have to check to see how many 120s we've got.
[13:35] I think I've got a six.
[13:38] Don't you?
[13:38] 20 minutes is what I think.
[13:39] 20 minutes.
[13:42] That's what it looks.
[13:43] C20.
[13:44] C20.
[13:44] Well, that's 120 minutes.
[13:46] Two hours.
[13:47] C120 is 120.
[13:48] Is that a 20-minute tape?
[13:50] 20-minute tape.
[13:51] We don't have any of that on the other page.
[13:52] Shoot it.
[13:53] It's a new tape.
[13:53] C120.
[13:53] But they're two hours long.
[13:56] He called for us back yesterday.
[14:05] Where was that, in the house?
[14:06] Yeah.
[14:06] D.C. Board.
[14:06] That's right.
[14:06] Make sure that we don't have a proper thing with those thugs back.
[14:10] Okay, sir.
[14:12] Okay.
[14:16] All right.
[14:17] Second, please.
[14:18] David, I'd like to speak to Sergeant Moreland, please.
[14:23] I think he has something to say.
[14:24] He started home, I appreciate it.
[14:27] Okay, that's cool.
[14:34] There you go.
[14:44] Mr. Moreland, please.
[14:48] Mr. Moreland, this is Sun Rail TV, Section Camp David.
[14:52] Yes, did you tell Mr. Sisko C-120s or C-20s?
[14:55] C-20s.
[14:57] Right, two hour tapes, correct?
[15:00] Right, okay.
[15:01] Well, he told me C20, and I didn't even know of any.
[15:07] So, uh, it's C120, correct?
[15:09] Okay, fine.
[15:10] Okay, thank you much.
[15:59] Yes, sir.
[16:26] It's 1-20.
[16:27] Two hour take.
[16:28] Two hour take.
[16:28] Two hour take.
[16:28] I don't know what kind.
[16:41] I didn't know what he wanted to say, what he wanted to go back, what?
[16:53] I don't know.
[16:59] I never can find out.
[17:21] He never knows.
[17:29] Have a good day.