{"conversationCode":"241-006","tapeNumber":241,"conversationNumber":6,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-241-006","startDateTime":"1973-02-02T20:43:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-03T20:30:00.000Z","startDate":"2-Feb-1973","startTime":"3:43 PM","endDate":"3-Feb-1973","endTime":"3:30 PM","dateCertainty":"estimated","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan); Sanchez, Manolo;","description":"President Richard M. Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan) Nixon, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 3:43 pm on February 2, 1973 and 3:30 pm on February 3, 1973. 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(“Pat”) Nixon and Manolo Sanchez.\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift during\nchronological review 2007-2013]\n\n**********************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Personal Returnable]\n[241-006-w001]\n[Duration: 1m 3s]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n       Room decoration\n             -Package\n             -Wall hangings\n                    -Prints\n                            -Closet\n                            -Winston M. Churchill\n                            -Marrakesh\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\n**********************************************************************\n\nThe President et. al. left at an unknown time before 3:30 pm, February 3, 1973.","filename":["241-006.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan)","Sanchez, Manolo"],"prevCode":"241-005","nextCode":"241-007","transcript":[{"start":28.23,"end":32.99,"text":"Do you need our boots for Mr. Nixon?"},{"start":33.02,"end":33.82,"text":"Do you want to just take them home?"},{"start":33.84,"end":34.97,"text":"Do you need those or do you want to just take them home?"},{"start":60.14,"end":89.52,"text":"Let's take these two things down there, Terry."},{"start":89.65,"end":99.43,"text":"Well, I'm going to take one down."},{"start":99.71,"end":101.25,"text":"These don't go with the room."},{"start":101.27,"end":102.69,"text":"They're ugly."},{"start":102.71,"end":103.77,"text":"You know, they're pretty."},{"start":103.79,"end":106.56,"text":"Right here, so you can see it."},{"start":107.08,"end":114.63,"text":"And then we'll take those two down and put them in that closet of mine in there."},{"start":115.17,"end":117.59,"text":"Well, can't you just take the wire off of here?"},{"start":117.61,"end":117.67,"text":"No."},{"start":118.26,"end":125.17,"text":"I think if they got a car, they could put it on right over there."},{"start":125.27,"end":130.17,"text":"We could put the other two in here, in that car, but no."},{"start":130.25,"end":131.01,"text":"Oh, I see."},{"start":131.03,"end":131.83,"text":"Those are just little prints."},{"start":131.85,"end":132.69,"text":"They're church prints."},{"start":132.71,"end":134.25,"text":"They're church prints."},{"start":134.28,"end":137.28,"text":"They're American, but they're..."},{"start":137.54,"end":142.06,"text":"They're little print prints."},{"start":142.08,"end":143.12,"text":"You can find things in white and blue."},{"start":143.15,"end":144.11,"text":"Special for white."},{"start":144.35,"end":144.47,"text":"Right."},{"start":145,"end":161.99,"text":"Yeah, we're not in a hurry."},{"start":162.01,"end":162.19,"text":"Oh, yeah."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon, First Lady Pat Nixon, and Manolo Sanchez gathered at the Aspen Lodge at Camp David to discuss the interior decoration of the residence. The participants reviewed various wall hangings and prints, ultimately deciding which pieces to display in the room and which to move to storage. 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