Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 241-010
Date: Saturday, February 3, 1973 at 3:30 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Sanchez, Manolo; Cox, Tricia Nixon
Recording device: Camp David Hard Wire
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/241-010

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[0:01] Our critics have always been right all along, that the fault was ours, it was one thing, the country itself.
[0:22] I feel that it was, I think, Sensei's realization on his part, which he often shows.
[0:24] Of course, in Canada, we like to take a little more time to let a little more open in the night, but in this instance, he might have felt that I was a bit rough on the critics.
[0:30] uh, Ned Rogers involved in the cabinet meeting.
[0:47] Of course, uh, I got to, uh, uh, get in and above the battle line.
[0:51] But on the other hand, it is important that, uh, a certain amount of character shows from here.
[0:54] As I told Sigrid, we couldn't be in a position of acting as if the press and our critics had, uh, always been right all along, and that the fault was ours.
[0:58] It's one that I think the country has had a little bit of.
[1:00] I'm just welcoming Prime Minister Sato here.
[1:16] Let me see if this translates alright.
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[1:58] I will go into Henry's office and tell him to just call out the papers that I should really read.
[2:18] That I must, again, must go through the job of the chief assistant, the testing assistant, to go through and dissect the material and pick out the facts.
[2:21] I, as it was, the material was very well prepared, although...
[2:46] I also spent some time on one of the paramedics.
[3:04] As I worked, I had a can of coke on me, but it was very heavy.
[3:06] I just had to take it in.
[3:06] I remember that.
[3:07] I had spoken to all of them about the possibility of having five minutes of silence before the first inspection.
[3:09] However, I had a hunch that it would be correct that somebody else might bring him down before I spoke to him.
[3:11] Unfortunately, I didn't get noticed.
[3:12] That night, woke up at 7 o'clock in the morning.
[3:14] more than three or four hours during the evening.
[3:32] And then, when I woke up for breakfast, at the breakfast, it was interesting to have people recording all of this watching mostly, not quite with any time.
[3:44] I think that, uh, it's also just, you know, it's a glorious work of hope, you know, and, uh, allowing people to come here.
[4:07] And, again, the purpose of the show is to show that, uh, all of it is correct in my view, and pretty much we have it correct.
[4:10] Uh, we all know that these students, these honoraries, speak for the actions of all of the country.
[4:12] And I think that's, uh, funny.
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[4:44] respectful was probably not as great as one would expect.
[5:05] The inaugural events, the right behind us, the boss aware of it, had to finish it.
[5:06] So far, there's no intention of such an event to be found if necessary.
[5:08] It was interesting to know that for the first time, one of these paraphernalia started.
[5:53] When we turned to the White House, I had only about 30 minutes before he arrived, and I had 10 to 15 minutes of history.
[6:17] But I think he needs it for his own ego and for his direction.
[6:18] It's really our fault.
[6:19] It's mine and anybody else's fault.
[6:19] It's true that, you know...
[6:26] And we must realize this, to be honest with you, son.
[6:58] Bye.
[7:27] This could be a high irony, particularly when anybody knows the facts in regards to the medical period and the negotiations in the Senate.
[7:51] The city is involved in violence, restraining control, trying to relax.
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[9:29] I remember talking to Ziegler after Jake and Ziegler was going out to sit on the right.
[9:53] And I said it was kind of minus, but it wasn't much of a plus.
[9:54] And he called me and asked some kind of questions to bring him down.
[9:56] Part of the trip, I suppose, was basically a go-to, which everybody agreed.
[9:57] Yeah, very well made.
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[10:41] I don't know what to do.
[11:07] Colson said he could fly by.
[11:07] He was trying to come up to Chris.
[11:08] Of course, Colson's kidding.
[11:08] I was kidding.
[11:09] I was kidding.
[11:09] I was kidding.
[11:09] I was kidding.
[11:10] I was kidding.
[11:10] I was kidding.
[11:11] I told Colson that he should talk to them about this by Saturday morning.
[11:21] At this point, Henry said he was asleep.
[11:22] I can't.
[11:22] Henry said he was asleep.
[11:46] I think the real problem here
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[12:45] uh um um um
[13:15] oh oh
[13:52] Well, no.
[14:18] The answers were so-
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[15:14] Come in.
[15:24] It's, uh...
[15:45] We just came up.
[15:46] Yeah, I was here last night, and I went back.
[16:07] We didn't spend the night, but I went back.
[16:08] No, he didn't either.
[16:09] He went back to London today.
[16:09] No, I went.
[16:09] We took him back last night.
[16:10] I went back with him.
[16:10] And we came up about 3 o'clock, 7 o'clock.
[16:12] She came up 7 o'clock.
[16:13] Yeah, yeah, we did.
[16:13] It's really good.
[16:14] Oh, everybody got a big kick out of it.
[16:17] Just like a dog.
[16:22] Just like a dog.
[16:24] He didn't know we saw him outside.
[16:27] He was going to be in this afternoon.
[16:33] I know I was going to try to get him away from the dog.
[16:35] I had been in the other room, but we saw him outside when he came in.
[16:45] Yeah, I think so.
[16:46] I don't know.
[16:46] Okay, awesome.
[16:50] I wouldn't think so, huh?
[17:11] Yeah, okay.
[17:11] Well, you're sure in the darkness.
[17:17] Thanks, honey.
[17:17] Well, anyway, you have a good time, and we'll see you, huh?
[17:19] All right, honey.
[17:19] Bye-bye.
[17:20] trying, of course, to win his morale up under some force in New York, which he's running through, and I think now he's going to take in a hockey game.
[17:34] He doesn't applaud it, so he won't receive it, I'm sure.
[17:35] On the other hand, he's supposed to play
[17:54] I don't believe I've ever heard all this talk about parole and so forth.
[18:16] It's not going to go on.
[18:16] As far as I can tell, most of the people don't agree.
[18:17] It's separate from the rest of it.
[18:18] It's advising people.
[18:18] I mean, we'll minimize the sophistication, of course, of the story.
[18:20] But everybody has his own historical records.
[18:21] Henry has talked so greatly to so many people that he called them close.
[18:22] He made it all up.
[18:23] And he felt like he had to call them.
[18:23] And then...
[18:37] Uh, so forth.
[19:12] The likes of Scott, Bill, and of course the others of the political types.
[19:30] Annabelle is just as nice to me.
[19:30] He has such a, honestly, powerful personality.
[19:31] He comes out so strong that I can see him drive with Bill right at the end of the moment.
[19:43] Uh, and there was a fight on the part of the police.
[20:05] And it was just a bad thing to his personality.
[20:06] So, uh, hotly, I told him, I told him, I told him, I told him, I told him, I told him, I told him, I told him, I told him, I told him,
[20:21] He's a mild romantic, and he is persistent about what he gets done, but he's a
[20:49] But Alex, of course, is a no-nonsense military type.
[21:03] And then we...
[21:03] Since we're... One man at that procedure in there, and we heard it's much better to have someone on a bull ring than that.
[21:06] When he doesn't have... You know, that's what it's like.
[21:21] I thought Greg played very well.
[21:43] He's becoming increasingly easy to talk to, although he still is not as responsive as I might like.
[21:45] But his car is pretty close to the basket.
[21:46] However, I will always be grateful that he stuck his head out for us during the bombing.
[21:48] I don't think he did that for his son.
[21:48] Also, his statement on arrival that I disposed of spoke for very long.
[21:58] I thought we had a very, very interesting talk in the car, and we had to come up by helicopter in Frederick when I drove, which was by the way, I'd seen the car, I'd seen the phone, and so forth, but I reminisced a bit about the various present
[22:35] He died of a broken heart this week, and also of a broken heart, a mental and psychological statement.
[22:55] And I found out that he was making some decisions from the subject, and it's constant.
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[23:42] Uh, Palm Springs.
[24:08] Uh, Palm Springs.
[24:08] Uh, Palm Springs.
[24:09] I brought you to the ranch, which he loved so much, and he had it for a break, made a big mistake, because he needed to see people as well, and even more than I did not, and certainly a lot more than I did not.
[24:32] He didn't have people come to see him, that's why he wanted people to come to see him.
[24:33] As I told you, the greatest blow to him was one that very in prior to the Democratic nomination,
[24:40] They did.
[25:02] They did.
[25:02] They came to meet me.
[25:03] Of course, I never came to see him later.
[25:04] And then I called Pete Johnson.
[25:04] He was the whole president.
[25:05] He was the president.
[25:05] And I ran a left-handed play.
[25:06] I called Pete Johnson.
[25:06] I called Mrs. Johnson today.
[25:07] I told her that Mrs. Johnson was going to go on.
[25:08] She said she'd written a letter.
[25:09] Of course, I didn't see her.
[25:09] And I...
[25:11] I told her about the U.N. position.
[25:32] She said she didn't want to say yes or no now.
[25:33] I said, that's all right.
[25:34] That's why I called her.
[25:34] Because I know she would have a lot of things that she might defend.
[25:36] And I thought she might want to consider doing something in the public service line later on.
[25:38] He certainly was one who asked for his extra pound of flesh.
[25:39] And with no reason for it at all.
[25:48] I'm glad he's getting me on this enough, because I'm going to watch those closely, and I'm going to look for people on there who have come on the hard lines.
[26:13] But it's all just stuck in my teeth, and I'm sure it's stuck in his as well.
[26:15] He's just a mother in good shape, and I think she will be back.
[26:19] I don't know.
[26:54] Thank you.
[27:13] Thank you.
[27:43] My first year at MedCon, I was very thoughtful about how commentators and critics, particularly on television, seemed to be showing at least a gratification of the fact that MedCon was open.
[28:06] The fact, as far as the rest is concerned, I don't know how much of an odd branch you can get in there.
[28:08] You can make your way back.
[28:29] The President has just let up that they will come with us.
[28:49] I am inclined to think that this is not the case.
[28:50] It's true.
[28:50] And, uh, it's a personal situation that won't be common because a lot of people in the country are particularly regarding television.
[28:53] I recently read that a lot of the recent discussion of, uh, what television companies are saying.
[28:54] And that is all particularly easy to come on after the President spoke with me.
[29:05] I don't know.
[29:45] dance around on that scene.
[30:05] I was pushing past it.
[30:06] He's really up for the elections in October.
[30:07] But I told him, unless he did it this year, we wouldn't get it done at all.
[30:08] I have a feeling he doesn't want to get it done at all.
[30:09] And he, of course, says, I said, well, we have to handle that while we have the means.
[30:11] And he said, well, they were covered.
[30:12] They didn't need us as much and so forth.
[30:13] Of course, this is total nonsense because they just...
[30:14] Absolutely, in terms of holding the ring against the Russians, and also in terms of their arms and bodies.
[30:38] I think that the more consideration I give to this, that we are going to have to move Henry out of this area, unless he does, to begin to take over the country.
[30:41] Egyptian is coming over.
[30:42] What he works on, I don't know.
[30:42] He's got to get me truly to move on from there, I think.
[30:45] They say we can't move because we all have Egyptian or Arab positions, but there is some place in the country where we can.
[31:04] The interim settlement is the first thing we can talk about.
[31:06] The only thing the Israelis will ever go for, the Egyptians or the Indians, is that they have to take a settlement.
[31:08] That's what the Arabs are with the insurances.
[31:30] as far as the United States and European countries are concerned, credible as far as the Russian
[32:05] I'm concerned we've been sent out because of weakness in the guard.
[32:28] In college, as usual, I'm cold.
[32:28] I'm very, very cold regarding this situation.
[32:29] We need to listen to the trade bill, which gives us the opportunity to cut off huge loads of goods in this market right there and there.
[32:32] But we also have to go all out in the country.
[32:34] I incidentally noted that erotically that CBS had a series on hunters and had a series on the environment.
[32:50] Now I have a series on energy.
[32:51] And this is the same type of thing.
[32:52] The energy problem is a real one, but I'm not going to be...
[33:14] I can't think about else.
[33:40] I can't think.
[33:41] I can't think.
[33:41] I can't think.
[33:41] I can't think.
[33:42] I watched him just as we talked, it was a walk.
[34:04] Anyway, he put his coat on, and I heard him walk in the rain down to Laurel.
[34:06] I went to the Secret Service, finally caught up with him.
[34:07] It was not relevant, but I showed him around Laurel.
[34:08] We rode back in the cart.
[34:09] When we got back in, I told him, it's about a break over.
[34:10] It was the first time that four of the guys had had a couple of...
[34:11] Enjoy it.
[34:20] The White House is ahead of me.
[34:43] It's really a servile.
[34:43] And, uh, it's true.
[34:44] And, uh, I told the Prime Minister that, uh, we're going to have to keep it down.
[34:45] But I just told him we have a different kind of deal.
[34:46] So that is, uh, a deal that they're going to wrap around.
[34:47] And, of course, in that case, it's important.
[34:48] You know, it's impressive.
[34:49] Impressive.
[34:49] Thank you.
[34:50] The conversation was light and extremely interesting.
[35:09] I thought, of course, somebody else would talk to me, because I don't have the time to do that.
[35:12] The British were very, very antagonistic toward the blacks.
[35:13] They're having a hell of a time in the commonwealth.
[35:14] Of course, the situation was, of course, increasingly embarrassing.
[35:16] And with the blacks expelling the Asian,
[35:19] the British labor market.
[35:40] As a result of that, you know, black men were getting into the problem, getting angry.
[35:41] And Ian Powell, of course, was getting into that, which was kind of a...
[35:43] It was a temporizing force to the back.
[35:44] He fired off, and as he and Alexander once agreed, he went back to the blacks and said, we're in this country to prove that we're a great asset.
[35:48] They're very strong, and they'll allow us to take the challenge together.
[36:12] The arts, they're the only area where I think, and also I might say that they're very talented when it comes to speaking.
[36:14] The area where I would really not seem to have the abilities that others may have is in the art sciences.
[36:17] Perhaps they need to go all the way through
[36:21] I was delighted to have the opportunity to sit by the wife of the ambassador twice.
[36:48] She is really a very nice person.
[36:48] I actually adore the publisher.
[36:49] And her conversation was great.
[36:50] I found that she was a good, strong supporter, and very good at the so-called social side, and as far as her attitude toward Vietnam and our role in it was concerned.
[37:15] I found that she was a good, strong supporter, and very good at the so-called social side, and very good at the so-called social side,
[37:22] at the table at lunch, made the point that somebody had suggested we meet, and she asked about what subject to talk about, and there were many sections that I could, all the time, just laugh and talk about them.
[37:47] The Brando, and the others, and everything else.
[37:48] I was lost, but I was
[37:53] i also had her call mrs senator
[38:23] The whole story, you know, was good.
[38:46] She had to develop something quite a lot, and I want you to buy it because it's so good.
[38:48] I mentioned she drew her by Rose.
[38:49] Rose does fine work.
[38:49] It's, of course, all of her work.
[38:50] I mean, Rose called me this morning.
[38:51] They had more than anybody ever said.
[38:51] It's special to have to sell somebody who makes the call when it comes to Rose.
[38:54] It may be that he has no point there.
[39:15] As he said, after the victory, there were those who wanted to accept it.
[39:22] Yeah.
[39:45] Yeah.
[40:09] out there, unless, of course, this is something that I just don't want to discuss on television.
[40:30] This, of course, wasn't a possibility in this case.
[40:38] I mean, I've said this several times, but I've been in trouble with too many people in Washington.
[40:59] And America, you see, is sick of America, et cetera.
[41:00] So they have the responsibility of getting to look out the window and see America, see what it's like.
[41:02] But instead, they look in the mirror, and they think they're looking out the window, and actually, but all they're seeing is themselves.
[41:05] And I think this is why I think it's very strong to hear it at this time.
[41:07] It's the right speech at some time.
[41:09] And we talk to the industry, not to time.
[41:33] It doesn't get any better for you at all.
[41:34] So I bet you're wondering what to do.
[41:34] In fact, I know the press at the time was humble.
[41:35] But there's a history making a difference in that thing to humble.
[41:37] On the other hand, in a certain
[42:07] What is happening here is exactly what I predicted.
[42:26] And, uh, without, uh, the patients are going to be terribly frustrated with the things about their age, uh, directions.
[42:28] And, uh, all of the sense of history is sort of changing its mind a bit on the idea of turning on the liberals, uh,
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[43:06] Interested in reading the transcript of Henry's conference that he left off.
[43:21] And yet, with regard to the bar in Perth, I don't think he's going to come here.
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[45:00] I like to take more responsibility than staff.
[45:21] I still develop these positions because I'm afraid to be a judge.
[45:22] War is supposed to be the center of this position.
[45:23] War, that is, because it is all personally built in God.
[45:30] Thank you.
[46:05] to be going along pretty well.
[46:26] The ceasefire kept loading the boat.
[46:26] And when I saw us, the boat was moving really fast.
[46:27] Everyone, I said, we're going to have to continue going.
[46:28] The ceasefire was a factor.
[46:29] Otherwise, we might not get to go.
[46:30] You know how the press never misses an opportunity to say that there's a lack of interest or excitement or appreciation or exultation in the United States because of the end of the war.
[46:33] And it's shocking to see that from right now.
[46:36] You're not going to be welcome.
[46:46] You're not going to be welcome.
[46:47] Of course, anybody else, anybody, that's totally normal.
[47:08] This is what I had done with my big government office in the back, out of the hands of people, and out of the pocket.
[47:48] Right.
[48:20] I don't know if I should be self-explanatory about it, but I think this elevator is a pretty blended group now, and I don't think it's going to be far off unless we're going to have to, uh, have to, uh, just, of course, cover it.
[48:48] I don't know if I should be self-explanatory about it,
[48:50] Yes.
[49:10] Yes.
[49:28] If I had a business tape, I would think that the exercise of making notes like this, although it takes, in this case, about an hour of my time, would be a matter of more than a mile.
[49:57] Thank you for watching.
[50:32] It's probably worthwhile to go to my thinking.
[50:41] Um...