{"conversationCode":"243-008","tapeNumber":243,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-243-008","startDateTime":"1973-02-24T18:36:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-02-24T18:45:00.000Z","startDate":"24-Feb-1973","startTime":"1:36 PM","endDate":"24-Feb-1973","endTime":"1:45 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Hirsch, William;","description":"On February 24, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and William Hirsch met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:36 pm and 1:45 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 243-008 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 243-8\n\nDate: February 24, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 1:36 pm and 1:45 pm\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President met with William Hirsch.\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift during\nchronological review 2007-2013]\n\n       Lounge chair\n\f                                             -6-\n\n                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                           Conversation No. 243-13 (cont’d)\n\n              -Placement\n                     -Sunroom\n                     -Pool\n\n*****************************************************************************\n\nSanchez left at an unknown time before 1:45 pm.","filename":["243-008.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Hirsch, William"],"prevCode":"243-007","nextCode":"243-009","transcript":[{"start":2.04,"end":4.79,"text":"down and sit down for a moment."},{"start":4.81,"end":5.07,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":5.41,"end":7.4,"text":"Where do you like, by the pool or down here?"},{"start":7.42,"end":9.07,"text":"Down by the pool."},{"start":9.09,"end":13.06,"text":"Yes, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with William Hirsch at Camp David to discuss the arrangement and placement of furniture and amenities on the grounds. The conversation centered on the preferences for lounge chair locations, specifically comparing the sunroom and the pool area. No high-level policy decisions were recorded during this brief administrative exchange regarding the facility's layout.","topics":["Camp David","Facility maintenance","Furniture placement","Estate management"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T11:28:58.308Z"},"topicSlugs":["camp-david","facility-maintenance","furniture-placement","estate-management"],"audioDurationSec":17,"audioFiles":[{"file":"243-008.mp3","bytes":114688,"durationSec":17.37,"bitrate":52811,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.695Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:10.018Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/243-008.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/243-008","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/243/conversation-243-008","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}