{"conversationCode":"245-016","tapeNumber":245,"conversationNumber":16,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-245-016","startDateTime":"1971-04-06T16:35:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-04-06T16:37:00.000Z","startDate":"6-Apr-1971","startTime":"11:35 AM","endDate":"6-Apr-1971","endTime":"11:37 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On April 6, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 11:35 am to 11:37 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 245-016 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 245-016\n\nDate: April 6, 1971\nTime: 11:35 am - 11:37 am\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Stephen B. Bull\n\n[See Conversation No. 42-19]","filename":["245-016.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:24:04","tapeEnd":"02:34:06","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"245-015","nextCode":"245-017","transcript":[{"start":1.84,"end":7.64,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":7.66,"end":25.36,"text":"Steve, after I finish this tape, then I come back to the Oval Office for that other meeting."},{"start":25.38,"end":25.48,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":25.5,"end":27.44,"text":"Are they going to come to the Oval or the Captain's office?"},{"start":27.46,"end":27.58,"text":"Right."},{"start":27.6,"end":29.35,"text":"And they'll be there when... Yeah, the tape is going to take more than five minutes."},{"start":30.33,"end":30.87,"text":"Well, five minutes as well."},{"start":30.89,"end":31.17,"text":"That's enough."},{"start":32.18,"end":58.35,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":58.37,"end":58.63,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":58.65,"end":58.91,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":61.88,"end":81.42,"text":"Are they sure of that, or is there a meeting that I need to know about?"},{"start":81.44,"end":83.1,"text":"I'm not going to have any about them, but I'm going to try to impress them on that."},{"start":83.12,"end":84.1,"text":"Is that what they want?"},{"start":84.12,"end":84.39,"text":"They want it."},{"start":84.55,"end":84.77,"text":"We all are."},{"start":84.78,"end":85.03,"text":"But be sure."},{"start":85.05,"end":87.87,"text":"Either way, if they tell me it's going to be 15 minutes, it's fine."},{"start":87.89,"end":88.19,"text":"I need to know."},{"start":88.21,"end":89.05,"text":"I need preparation."},{"start":92,"end":119.64,"text":"Yeah, I'm going to, let's have him 12, I don't know, 12 o'clock."},{"start":119.67,"end":119.97,"text":"No, 12 o'clock."},{"start":120.13,"end":120.61,"text":"No, 12 o'clock."},{"start":121.75,"end":128.34,"text":"Well, man, I don't know."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull coordinate scheduling logistics for an upcoming meeting following the President's current recording session. Nixon emphasizes his need for adequate preparation time and requests clarification regarding the specific location and expected duration of his next appointment. They ultimately agree to aim for a 12:00 p.m. start time to ensure the President is properly briefed.","topics":["Scheduling","White House logistics","Presidential time management","Meeting preparation"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T11:31:22.612Z"},"topicSlugs":["scheduling","white-house-logistics","presidential-time-management","meeting-preparation"],"audioDurationSec":128,"audioFiles":[{"file":"245-016.mp3","bytes":5136509,"durationSec":128.29,"bitrate":320313,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.481Z","transcriptGapSeconds":91,"transcriptGapShare":0.71,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/245-016.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/245-016","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/245/conversation-245-016","catalogNaId":417183249,"catalogUrl":"https://catalog.archives.gov/id/417183249","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}