Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 246-029
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 1971 at 5:22 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.; [Unknown person(s)]
Recording device: Old Executive Office Building
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/246-029

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[0:02] Oh, I was talking to Bob, but I was telling him your reaction to the captain.
[0:21] I'm going to wish you luck.
[0:50] It's hard, you know what I'm talking about, but we've gone through a lot of extensions here, and I'm a little bit worried about some of the things that I was concerned about in the beginning.
[1:14] It isn't, the point is that it isn't that they, I didn't summon any of these people, they just should, or can arrest, but it is a good all-in-one, it isn't that I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,
[1:18] I don't want to know that I know him.
[1:33] It was the last time.
[1:33] One of the last times.
[1:34] I don't want to hear that kind of crap.
[1:35] I don't want to hear that kind of crap.
[1:36] I don't want to hear that kind of crap.
[1:37] beyond the uh
[2:00] And then it created the establishment of the Dillons and the, you know, the Meyers.
[2:17] Well, that doesn't make any difference.
[2:18] You're the president.
[2:18] That's what some of us made.
[2:19] In Britain, it would be different.
[2:21] The Prime Minister at the moment of national tragedy, they couldn't count that the establishment would be there.
[2:26] Best, Mr. President, for this meeting with the leaders tonight.
[2:36] I will not make any further hints about negotiations.
[2:41] Also, I'm a little worried, in fact, already, about Laird.
[2:43] Laird.
[2:43] By saying, see, you know, Laird's latest pick is he wants to be the guy who has the negotiations started again.
[2:49] I think what I was going to say is...
[2:50] Well, you said cease fires and troop control, but I don't.
[3:04] I'll touch it up and say you might be a focus on this.
[3:06] But I wouldn't make any good of it.
[3:08] No, I won't.
[3:11] One interesting piece of information, John Mitchell told me that the Abediners, the good ones, were actually from New Mexico.
[3:16] They were negotiating in Algiers with the Algiers about two months ago.
[3:18] Yeah, that had been very interesting.
[3:39] They'd been opening negotiations with one or two out there, which was quite interesting.
[3:40] I'll tell you what, it just went down that road once.
[3:41] Yeah, it went down quite a bit.
[3:42] He asked me whether we wanted to pass any message back.
[3:44] And I told him, no, they needed to channel it.
[3:45] Yeah.
[3:45] That's what I was talking about.
[3:45] Yeah.
[3:45] Anderson was again in our area without really confessing back, of course, you know, that's what he said.
[3:48] There was no further message from the Vietnamese at the outskirts.
[4:04] They were in a state of stress.
[4:05] That the Vietnamese are in bad trouble.
[4:05] At least for Central, they are so reluctant to accept these fires because they have literally troubles.
[4:08] Even they do this firing at home, and the sailors are firing at the other side.
[4:11] He thinks that all humans are in very bad shape, and he does not know yet what that means.
[4:28] I don't know if it's a terrible disease or not, but I think that what you know is the breadth of the disease.
[4:30] I hope it is the opposite story, that they are shapeable.
[4:31] We do have some issues in common.
[4:32] That indicates the morale trouble.
[4:48] It indicates, you know, the casualty of the woodcutter.
[4:49] So...
[4:51] I cannot believe, after the years with the treatment, they checked it out over two or three years.
[5:20] I think that's why they said that he would be asking me to speak to him for a message.
[5:30] I think that's why the middle of the man is like this.
[5:31] It's like the end of the man is like this.
[5:32] It's like the end of the man is like this.
[5:34] This is going to hold.
[5:48] This stage, if not tomorrow, holds until the end of May.
[5:54] I'd call that an April to May.
[5:56] April to May.
[5:56] We've got two months.
[5:57] Well, we'll stir it a little bit more.
[5:58] We've got to stir it.
[5:59] Well, you know, it'll kind of just hang.
[6:00] The mail layers are trying to hang something from the Missouri draft bill or something.
[6:01] They do what they do, but it's all right.
[6:02] I'm going to just hang money.
[6:03] This is the best I can.
[6:03] Thank you.
[6:08] And he said, he wasn't worried.
[6:35] He didn't care.
[6:35] I picked him up.
[6:36] He said, why don't you do this?
[6:36] And I said, why don't you do this?
[6:37] The whole question.
[7:02] They like it fun.
[7:24] They don't like it fun.
[7:24] I'm not going to lie to them.
[7:25] I'm not going to listen to them.
[7:25] I'm just going to take the message.
[7:26] I'm not going to be able to.
[7:27] I can't believe it.
[7:27] That's what I'm going to do.
[7:28] I'm going to be ready to rock and roll with anybody who wants to come.
[7:29] If they happen to call me, I'm sorry.
[7:31] ... ... ... ... ...
[8:00] Congress, or they're all the other comments that I've heard around, you know, we're the only ones who are right, we're the only ones who are wrong.
[8:17] It's a heaven to the children.
[8:18] Well, it is true.
[8:18] We are good people.
[8:19] And I'm able to comment on that.
[8:20] Oh yeah, I don't think so.
[8:21] But I mean, but among the people who are focused, and they don't have a program, I don't know whether Bob told you about that or not.
[8:25] No matter what I say, explaining to your mother, you don't have to tell that to your mother again.
[8:43] But then, I'll tell you what you want the president to do.
[8:45] You know, he kept saying how hard it is to make a difference in Oregon, and I suppose he's much smarter than me.
[8:47] I don't know what he wants to do.
[8:48] He increases the rate of withdrawal.
[8:49] He's still in the same place.
[8:49] The difference, in fact, is only a few months.
[8:51] What do you want them to do?
[9:01] You know, if you don't discover them, you're going down through the system.
[9:07] But what do you really want to determine today?
[9:08] You didn't have to come to say, well, or say when, or when.
[9:10] But that's the problem with the opposition.
[9:11] They don't have any alternatives.
[9:12] I don't know that well that you would go from day to day to be so different.
[9:15] I mean, it's different at the end of the year.
[9:19] There's several words in there.
[9:20] We'll be out again next year.
[9:46] We'll be out again this year.
[9:46] We'll be out again next year.
[9:47] We'll be out again next year.
[9:48] We'll be out again next year.
[9:49] that we can't settle this one.
[10:03] I don't know about you, but you can go to .
[10:11] But it's your .
[10:12] It's not an election .
[10:12] Well, then we have a long ahead.
[10:13] Then we start debating about the date.
[10:14] Terminal date and the residual force.
[10:15] And we'll say, all right, that's what we're going to do.
[10:16] That's the plan.
[10:17] Whack.
[10:18] We checked out the average rate by 20% by just moving it up one month.
[10:39] We don't have an .
[10:43] We have to.
[10:44] Yeah, but you understand very well, then, in reverse, that he's going to get back to the person.
[11:07] And that is, by early November, they're going to be not about them anymore.
[11:09] They're negotiating about it.
[11:10] That's the first thing you know about it.
[11:10] So you spiral over.
[11:11] It doesn't mean a whole lot.
[11:12] They have to negotiate by the end of November.
[11:13] By the beginning of November, then we know who the other person is.
[11:14] The bottom of the tank is better, by the way, so it doesn't dissipate.
[11:39] The bottom of the tank is a different thing.
[11:40] It's not a big deal.
[11:40] It's a little ray.
[11:40] It's a little ray.
[11:41] It's a little ray.
[11:41] It's a little ray.
[11:42] It's a little ray.
[11:42] It's a little ray.
[11:43] Today, uh, it's not in good shape, but Mr. Bloddick wants to see you.
[12:06] I've been over to the same hall again, but I'm home.
[12:09] You get it.
[12:09] But with the congressmen, I will get into the details of negotiating the middle.
[12:39] But I think it's a great feat, Mr. President, that it's such a country that you're going to serve it.
[12:50] I know it will do that.