Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 249-021
Date: Thursday, April 15, 1971 at 4:42 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Buchanan, Patrick J.
Recording device: Old Executive Office Building
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/249-021

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[0:00] I think all of this stuff about
[0:19] Sometimes I'll just kick that one off.
[0:21] I'm going to use the line.
[0:23] Exactly, exactly the same.
[0:25] Standing with parents.
[0:27] I'm just going to kick it off.
[0:43] The way you handle it now, three years ago, is the way it is now.
[0:48] Yeah.
[0:49] The mix there.
[0:50] Some of it was light, some of it was deep.
[0:53] Yeah.
[0:54] Is that a good statement?
[0:56] Well, you can't tell a question.
[1:04] I think it allows the worst precedent to sit on that.
[1:10] The surveillance industry exists.
[1:23] The height of the ridiculousness was reached when they got out of the election post this morning and showed the picture.
[1:32] There's the White House room.
[1:34] And the campers have been there for years.
[1:37] And Clement.
[1:37] And they're also on Camp David and everybody.
[1:39] So you know what they had to do?
[1:40] They didn't have to go out of that camp.
[1:41] They just had to have men up there shooting guns.
[1:43] I don't know what they did.
[1:45] But if they want somebody to come up there with a bazooka and bop lobby at the party, who the hell do they think the campers are there for?
[1:52] They're spying on somebody now.
[1:54] It's really, I mean, this whole idea that everybody's being watched, and there must be men, I think, in this room right now.
[2:00] It's every place, honestly, where a public figure is, and there are other figures, other people around.
[2:10] You know, we didn't listen to Mr. Baylor's capacity for the people who ran in when he was there.
[2:18] It was a huge shock to me.
[2:18] I don't think that's a...
[2:19] I don't think they were able to find a way to shoot it through themselves.
[2:21] They had to pass through a hundred gardens to do it.
[2:22] It was like they were all fed into one.
[2:23] You know, I mean, it was a little bit of a solid ground, but they had something on it that was interesting.
[2:25] Yeah, they had that ready.
[2:26] They had a pump and a squad.
[2:27] But I think that there was something there.
[2:39] I don't know what the hell they did, but you know that all of these public meetings with the FBI, they might have been tailing somebody.
[2:46] I mean, it must be bad, but I can say that they always said that the FBI usually is the party in order to see the truth.
[2:54] They protect the president because they're chasing around.
[3:00] I think that's right.
[3:01] I think that's right.
[3:02] I think that's right.
[3:11] Is that right?
[3:12] Yeah.
[3:13] And they put musketeers in Madtown as well.
[3:17] It's kind of a mix-and-match.
[3:20] It's kind of a mix-and-match.
[3:22] You know, mix-and-match means musketeers.
[3:24] Oh, yeah, yeah.
[3:25] See, this was a radical mutt in Madtown.
[3:29] But when they want to hear some kind of mutt, they're musketeers coming in.
[3:34] Everybody's going to want to meet up in the barn.
[3:37] They'll want to hear it all.
[3:39] They'll do it all already.
[3:40] It's a very tough shot hoover.
[4:09] uh, voting, or potentially not voting, and we got, by the way, a hand-level vote by, gosh, the M.D.I.
[4:18] and the, uh, the, uh, damn high public extinguisher.
[4:22] Uh...
[4:24] You know, I feel that the message is sort of a cheap shot at these federal agencies.
[4:31] You know, they're all Catholic.
[4:33] They're all Irish-born Catholics.
[4:35] They're all solo Catholics.
[4:37] And this is very high regard for people from the Catholic community.
[4:41] It still is.
[4:42] And just, if we can spend it on something like that, we ask the institution, which doesn't like even the civil rights here, you know,
[4:52] Right.
[4:53] Right.
[4:53] Right.
[5:19] See, the youth culture, they really believe, they really believe this is the police.
[5:23] They really believe this.
[5:24] They are, but the other people really believe it.
[5:43] And so, I don't know how to answer it, but I'll say it isn't.
[5:46] I'll go back to the room and see how creepy it is.
[5:48] And I think I'll just put it in with the other stuff.
[5:49] I've made some other stories.
[5:50] And, uh...
[6:11] They're probably senior guys.
[6:40] I'm glad we're not so much.
[6:42] I know.
[6:43] It's much better.
[6:44] Do you agree?
[6:44] It's much better.
[6:45] I overrode everybody on that.
[6:46] I know everybody thinks it's such a great show.
[6:49] Bullshit.
[6:49] I think the thing to do is to go up there and make it their show this time.
[6:55] Yeah.
[6:55] Sure, that was the greatest show we've had in just about six to eight weeks.
[6:59] And Rockwell was over at his famous... Well, it won't be like that this year.
[7:02] Actually.
[7:04] What made that show was not what we did for the Rock and Rollers.
[7:07] Remember, he came down to the Rebellion.
[7:11] He was Bob.
[7:11] He was the director for it.
[7:13] Yeah.
[7:14] And then we came back from the great Q&A, everybody got a handkerchief in charge of it.
[7:24] Also, the $100 came home.
[7:26] But, uh, this year...
[7:28] So, with God, man, it takes a long time, you know?
[7:32] And this move that we've made, it comes with it.
[7:39] I don't know if they're going to face you.