{"conversationCode":"250-018","tapeNumber":250,"conversationNumber":18,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-250-018","startDateTime":"1971-04-16T20:27:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-04-16T22:30:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Apr-1971","startTime":"3:27 PM","endDate":"16-Apr-1971","endTime":"5:30 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On April 16, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:27 pm and 5:30 pm. 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(“Bob”) Haldeman\n\n     Bombings\n         -California\n               -Cost of arson at Santa Cruz campus of University of California, April 8, 1971\n         -Riots in Washington\n         -Leftists\n\n          -Costs\n          -Figures from General Services Administration [GSA]\n                -Bombings of federal buildings\n                -Need for statistics on bombings in states\n          -Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]\n          -Patrick J. Buchanan\n                -Investigation\n          -Staff responsibility\n                -John D. Ehrlichman\n\n     Press story\n           -George P. Shultz\n           -Chicago\n           -Harvard University\n     Stock market\n           -Rise\n           -Record level\n\n     President’s schedule\n          -Buchanan\n          -Interview with unknown man\n          -Press\n          -Appointments for April 17, 1971\n                -Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield\n                -Peter G. Peterson\n                -Mansfield","filename":["250-018.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:38:19","tapeEnd":"03:46:03","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"250-017","nextCode":"250-019","transcript":[{"start":0.19,"end":8.22,"text":"I know that in California law, building in Santa Cruz is going to cost five million bucks."},{"start":8.24,"end":9,"text":"All right."},{"start":9.02,"end":14.74,"text":"You know, damn well, they're running the law."},{"start":15.22,"end":20.13,"text":"There's a damn riot we've had here in Washington."},{"start":21.32,"end":23.89,"text":"They've run very heavy on behalf of me and the boss."},{"start":24.13,"end":30.87,"text":"I think what it is, in the marketing period, I think it's just a false story to tell."},{"start":31.03,"end":32.4,"text":"I'll say it really fast."},{"start":32.53,"end":35.36,"text":"I mean, you see, the lefties don't want to decide."},{"start":35.66,"end":39.58,"text":"I think it's just a matter of going full-time and getting paid."},{"start":41.1,"end":45,"text":"This is the federal government."},{"start":62.55,"end":63.89,"text":"See Christ, what about the state?"},{"start":63.99,"end":64.95,"text":"What about the armies?"},{"start":64.97,"end":65.89,"text":"What about the state?"},{"start":65.93,"end":66.75,"text":"What about the colleges?"},{"start":66.81,"end":67.93,"text":"What about the state unions?"},{"start":68.07,"end":70.63,"text":"What about the burning Jesus Christ on the grave of God's full body?"},{"start":70.75,"end":77.3,"text":"Now the FBI actually got me to talk to Senator Jim Carrey, the incredible woman that I asked to send a letter on this yesterday."},{"start":77.32,"end":78.92,"text":"We kind of discussed this, and it didn't work."},{"start":79.72,"end":85.98,"text":"The man, he did not choose to send a letter."},{"start":86,"end":87.4,"text":"He had a girl that he shipped out to the people."},{"start":88.88,"end":89.8,"text":"This can't be false."},{"start":89.96,"end":92.56,"text":"Hell, Christ, you can't get out and do this."},{"start":92.67,"end":94.55,"text":"You've got to work for that anyway."},{"start":94.56,"end":97.29,"text":"But somebody around here ought to be able to do that."},{"start":97.45,"end":99.77,"text":"I mean, all you've got to do is agree."},{"start":99.79,"end":100.43,"text":"I could do it."},{"start":100.47,"end":102.41,"text":"My God, I'd have gotten an album."},{"start":102.43,"end":104.15,"text":"I'd have had the time."},{"start":104.95,"end":107.89,"text":"But they just got to learn how to do it."},{"start":107.95,"end":108.27,"text":"You know?"},{"start":108.37,"end":111.63,"text":"You've got to learn how to do it."},{"start":111.75,"end":116.77,"text":"You've got to learn how to do it."},{"start":118.29,"end":125,"text":"I think I'm delighted that they have all the information out there."},{"start":125.54,"end":134.52,"text":"Everybody's been hired and so have they."},{"start":134.62,"end":137.76,"text":"Well, he's being a half-nature."},{"start":138.77,"end":144.07,"text":"At least the day they brought the bullets."},{"start":144.25,"end":146.85,"text":"That brought up a day for them, didn't it?"},{"start":196.15,"end":205.73,"text":"Well, I didn't mean to press, but just get rid of the gun."},{"start":205.77,"end":215.31,"text":"It will not take more than an hour or so, I know, just to move on."},{"start":216.5,"end":222.02,"text":"But rather than that, I want you to move on."},{"start":226.13,"end":228.69,"text":"You have a kind of movement."},{"start":228.81,"end":232.79,"text":"I have fears of a nice bird that I can't hold on to."},{"start":232.81,"end":234.5,"text":"You know, a natural one."},{"start":235.46,"end":238.58,"text":"I'm trying to hold it in my right."},{"start":238.62,"end":239.78,"text":"Bird to get angry."},{"start":239.8,"end":241.9,"text":"Bird to get angry."},{"start":242.86,"end":245.5,"text":"Bird to get angry."},{"start":245.56,"end":246.54,"text":"Bird to get angry."},{"start":246.6,"end":249.56,"text":"Bird to get angry."},{"start":250.1,"end":251.78,"text":"Bird to get angry."},{"start":252.8,"end":253.62,"text":"Bird to get angry."},{"start":254.55,"end":255.04,"text":"Oh, my God."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H. 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The conversation also touched upon press reporting, the rising stock market, and scheduling matters for upcoming meetings with figures such as Mike Mansfield.","topics":["Domestic unrest","Bombings","FBI","Radicalism","Government statistics","Public relations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T11:42:21.641Z"},"topicSlugs":["domestic-unrest","bombings","fbi","radicalism","government-statistics","public-relations"],"audioDurationSec":257,"audioFiles":[{"file":"250-018.mp3","bytes":10271010,"durationSec":256.63,"bitrate":320174,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:38.006Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/250-018.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/250-018","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/250/conversation-250-018","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}