Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 250-025 Date: Friday, April 16, 1971 at 5:33 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob") Recording device: Old Executive Office Building Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/250-025 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:01] I've been talking to Henry, you know, I've been bugging him to be sure that he keeps scaling it for him, but I don't know whether he's doing it enough. [0:08] He's got some ideas which are absolutely nuts. [0:11] I mean, he wants to move it, and now he's going to throw all the division and rums and all that sort of thing there. [0:18] We don't want to stir up the amount now, but he doesn't understand that, see. [0:21] Somebody's got to talk to him about it, see. [0:24] He's got to set a talk to. [0:26] He's got to set a talk to, set a talk to. [0:28] The way to do it, [0:30] The way to do it is that you bring him and Henry in from the Iran Ministry. [0:36] And Henry has gotten to sit there and talk to Schiskelli. [0:39] Now, if he doesn't do it, because Schiskelli has said he'll do it, he's not able to do it, you see. [0:45] But I managed to say, he feels it. [0:48] Now, actually, if I go to China, then he wants to make more of it, which Henry said, and I said, well, that was my role. [0:53] Well, I don't think we should trust you at this point. [0:56] My own view is that that's a mistake. [0:59] I think you're wrong. [1:01] And that's what Scali sees, that we have not done enough. [1:13] And Henry doesn't like to be reminded of the fact that by the art we have. [1:26] So, but let me ask you to do this. [1:30] I don't want to have to get in the middle of this and go, I don't want to have to sit here and have to go to everybody and go to all these things because I hear it more than anybody. [1:43] It's valid and angry and wrong. [1:45] There it is. [1:45] And about this subject, I don't get a greater, I don't get it in Schultz, I don't get it in others, I don't know a goddamn thing about Ford Post, and I don't want that anymore. [1:52] I don't want the competition, I don't care anymore. [1:56] The question of something that's unaccomplished is a matter of . [1:59] You know, meaning that this certain darkness was important. [2:02] You know, as we walk through the day after day, you know, it's contrary to what there is for people of some kind in that relationship with God. [2:11] And that first element of darkness, you know, you say, you know, there's cancer in that place.