Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 251-009
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1971 at 2:55 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.
Recording device: Old Executive Office Building
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/251-009
National Archives Catalog: https://catalog.archives.gov/id/417183535 (NAID 417183535)

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[0:00] I'm quite sure you did not say
[0:23] I was quite sure of that.
[0:25] I was quite sure of that, and I talked to several others who were in the meeting.
[0:28] They said, no, sir, I'm in here, but I want you to check directly with you, because then I can say I'm talking to them.
[0:38] It wasn't even discussed.
[0:39] Why don't you quote McGregor?
[0:41] He was there.
[0:42] The subject was not even brought up.
[0:44] We didn't discuss the Vietnam War.
[0:47] You mean his demonstration?
[0:48] I thought he brought it up.
[0:51] It wasn't even...
[0:53] It wasn't on the agenda.
[0:54] It wasn't brought up by anybody.
[0:55] I can bring it up.
[0:57] It wasn't all simple, Scott.
[0:59] No, no, no.
[0:59] It was splattered around town.
[1:02] I would have hit it pretty hard.
[1:06] It was said.
[1:06] The president's never said it.
[1:09] No, it is.
[1:09] It's a matter.
[1:11] That was not being discussed at all in that meeting or any other meeting.
[1:16] The president has never said it.
[1:19] No, no, no, don't say that.
[1:21] It's a matter that was not discussed at that meeting or any other meeting.
[1:24] And it was not discussed in that meeting.
[1:28] I don't know how many there are.
[1:31] It's one of the slightest ideas.
[1:34] But it is enough.
[1:35] But you're being quoted the same.
[1:37] Only 30% of those that are juried.
[1:41] I've never heard you say that.
[1:44] During the slightest idea of what they were, I would assume that there are some that are not, but I would be very surprised if they were all there.
[1:50] But we haven't even discussed this.
[1:53] We don't have any numbers.
[1:54] We have no reason, no knowledge of it.
[1:56] The matter was not even discussed this morning, and it's never been discussed in any meeting that I know of.
[2:02] But I'd like to nail who the hell's on it.
[2:04] Who is it?
[2:05] I don't know.
[2:06] I'm a smart guy now.
[2:09] Is it somebody from the White House?
[2:12] I don't know.
[2:13] No, really, I mean, that's, uh, somebody may be just trying to, trying to jump us.
[2:19] Who was in that meeting this morning?
[2:21] Who, who the hell, uh... Well, the point is that you did not say that.
[2:25] Forget what I said.
[2:27] We did not discuss the demonstrations at all.
[2:30] We discussed it.
[2:33] We've been brought up about the demonstrations.
[2:36] I think 30% of that is something new.
[2:38] I think the vice president said it.
[2:39] Maybe he said it.
[2:41] Did he?
[2:42] I don't know.
[2:45] He might have said it.
[2:46] But it's not been in the meeting.
[2:48] In the meeting, the matter of demonstration was not even discussed.
[2:50] You were there.
[2:52] The draft.
[2:55] Thank you, sir.