{"conversationCode":"251-010","tapeNumber":251,"conversationNumber":10,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-251-010","startDateTime":"1971-04-20T20:00:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-04-20T20:04:00.000Z","startDate":"20-Apr-1971","startTime":"3:00 PM","endDate":"20-Apr-1971","endTime":"3:04 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On April 20, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:00 pm and 3:04 pm. 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The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]\n\n[End of transcript]","filename":["251-010.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:10:07","tapeEnd":"00:12:38","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"251-009","nextCode":"251-011","transcript":[{"start":3.1,"end":13.09,"text":"I'm curious what you said about the way they're getting around and the effect of the leadership meeting this morning."},{"start":13.21,"end":17.91,"text":"Only 30% of those in this demonstration were Vietnam veterans."},{"start":18.43,"end":21.14,"text":"That's a crisis, and of course it wasn't that early."},{"start":22.02,"end":28.73,"text":"The matter was, there was absolutely nobody brought up the demonstration, nobody in the discussion."},{"start":29.05,"end":38.88,"text":"I wonder if Agnew said something like this, or the slightest idea how many, all week, all week."},{"start":40.38,"end":41.04,"text":"We don't know."},{"start":41.06,"end":44.78,"text":"It was just the press and everybody else."},{"start":44.82,"end":50.85,"text":"But I just wondered if somebody had done anything."},{"start":50.87,"end":56.81,"text":"I just want to turn around that wall and say it wasn't to be discussed."},{"start":56.83,"end":57.25,"text":"Absolutely."},{"start":57.31,"end":61.73,"text":"My great-grandson and me, there was absolutely no discussion."},{"start":61.91,"end":62.17,"text":"What?"},{"start":62.21,"end":63.01,"text":"Ever of that."},{"start":63.73,"end":64.21,"text":"Whatever."},{"start":64.61,"end":65.37,"text":"Absolutely not."},{"start":65.63,"end":66.67,"text":"About any demonstration."},{"start":67.95,"end":69.78,"text":"Did you just touch that one, Trish?"},{"start":69.82,"end":75.3,"text":"You didn't just touch any of them, did you?"},{"start":75.38,"end":76.84,"text":"Oh, I thought you brought them out."},{"start":77.1,"end":79.28,"text":"You've got to shake them up a little there."},{"start":79.32,"end":87.72,"text":"There must be... No, the only ones that were in there that aren't usually there are his men."},{"start":87.75,"end":93.89,"text":"I don't want to trip you, but his man might make up some such man."},{"start":93.91,"end":96.21,"text":"I don't want to check, but this is a chance to nail somebody."},{"start":97.53,"end":99.66,"text":"It absolutely was not even a..."},{"start":99.68,"end":101.46,"text":"It isn't one where he got married."},{"start":101.52,"end":103,"text":"There was no discussion at all."},{"start":103.05,"end":104.79,"text":"There was absolutely no question."},{"start":105.17,"end":110.32,"text":"Something great about the demonstration."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H. R. Haldeman discussed the recent Vietnam veterans' anti-war demonstration, specifically addressing the lack of mention regarding the protests during a morning leadership meeting. Nixon expressed frustration that the media's focus on the demonstration had not been effectively countered or addressed by administration officials. 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