{"conversationCode":"251-025","tapeNumber":251,"conversationNumber":25,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-251-025","startDateTime":"1971-04-29T13:50:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-04-29T14:24:00.000Z","startDate":"29-Apr-1971","startTime":"9:50 AM","endDate":"29-Apr-1971","endTime":"10:24 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haig, Alexander M., Jr.;","description":"On April 29, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 9:50 am and 10:24 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 251-025 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 251-25\n\nDate: April 29, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 9:50 am and 10:24 am\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with General Alexander M. Haig, Jr.\n\n     Vietnam\n          -Casualties two years ago\n          -1st Marine Division\n                -Number","filename":["251-025.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:28:01","tapeEnd":"02:28:45","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haig, Alexander M., Jr."],"prevCode":"251-024","nextCode":"251-026","transcript":[{"start":3.79,"end":9.58,"text":"Now, what about the, uh, the, uh, situation on, uh..."},{"start":10.98,"end":17.06,"text":"the casualties this week and a year ago, and the casualties this week are, are they two years ago?"},{"start":17.1,"end":19.16,"text":"Can you get that for me?"},{"start":19.18,"end":22.71,"text":"The casualties two years ago, and this week, this week, I'd like to know."},{"start":23.63,"end":28.23,"text":"In terms of that first working division, how many are in a division?"},{"start":28.25,"end":33.13,"text":"I don't need a precise figure in the Marine Division."},{"start":33.15,"end":35.65,"text":"I just want to know how many casualties."},{"start":35.67,"end":39.48,"text":"I just want to get the Marine Division in my mind."},{"start":39.52,"end":40.3,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with General Alexander M. Haig, Jr. to request comparative data on Vietnam War casualties, specifically seeking figures from the current week contrasted with those from one and two years prior. Additionally, the President requested information regarding the size and composition of the 1st Marine Division. This inquiry reflected Nixon’s effort to contextualize current military losses and force structure as part of his ongoing assessment of the Vietnam conflict.","topics":["Vietnam War","Military casualties","1st Marine Division","Military statistics","Executive communication"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T11:46:09.373Z"},"topicSlugs":["vietnam-war","military-casualties","1st-marine-division","military-statistics","executive-communication"],"audioDurationSec":41,"audioFiles":[{"file":"251-025.mp3","bytes":1627742,"durationSec":40.54,"bitrate":321190,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.695Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/251-025.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/251-025","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/251/conversation-251-025","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}