Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 251-027
Date: Thursday, April 29, 1971 at 10:24 AM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")
Recording device: Old Executive Office Building
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/251-027

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[0:00] Well, the way I would do things,
[0:30] ever compared in talking.
[0:31] The way I look at it, I say, now, let's figure out what we'll regret if she's the first one to mind.
[0:37] If she's the first one to mind, I'll say it.
[0:41] If she's the first one to mind, I'll say it.
[0:44] He tries to go into the whole background.
[0:47] He graduated from Stanford, California, law school.
[0:51] That's all interesting.
[0:52] How was it all that?
[0:54] That's interesting.
[0:55] You know, in the one minute that that press will hear me, I've got to have something that will grab them.
[1:02] But it's all right.
[1:03] It's all right.
[1:03] They do the best they can.
[1:04] I know what happened to them.
[1:05] They had kids.
[1:07] All their staffs are all too big.
[1:09] About 18 little boys and girls working up these things.
[1:14] The problem you really got is what you've got here is the payment compared by now.
[1:18] I'm just concerned with the personnel, not with the...
[1:21] I don't care about the personnel.
[1:28] Not what they... Another one I'm concerned about...
[1:31] She's got her law school work coming in early.
[1:35] Coming in early.
[1:36] The left wing out there is law firm.
[1:38] Anybody that will left in that firm is out.
[1:41] If you watch the southeast danger they have, it's a bad one.
[1:46] It's a bad one.
[1:47] Did we ever get rid of her?
[1:50] No.
[1:50] No.
[1:50] No.
[1:51] No.
[2:02] Stretching.
[2:06] If the division strength varies, it's less scallops.
[2:19] There is a problem over getting in something you can't support in anything.
[2:40] You know, it sounds good at Scallion, as it looks, because it's, I guess, check the back figures.
[2:46] In fact, the Marine Division is 18,000.
[2:48] Marine Divisions are 16,000.
[2:51] 14,200.
[2:51] Now, there's a difference between that and 16,000.
[2:57] One division a day, by the end of November, there's more divisions.
[3:02] Tomorrow, I'm not asking, what I'm asking, what I want to talk to you about is today.
[3:24] I read this column, again, it's looked in there, by Smith Hemsworth.
[3:31] The administration will fall into the other caravan.
[3:36] College presidents, that's what I'm concerned about.
[3:40] They're all good people and also not enforcing the law.
[3:45] That's my problem with RCIC.
[3:48] You don't think we have that problem, do you?
[3:52] The arrest yesterday showed we're enforcing the law.
[3:56] The arrest on Monday.
[3:59] I'm not backing down on anything.
[4:04] Certainly not doing any antagonizing.
[4:11] It's kind of gone last week.
[4:15] That was...
[4:19] Now, one thing is saying we expect to be violent.
[4:22] I don't think we should say that.
[4:24] So, seeing that if there is violence, then we look foolish.
[4:27] And if there is, we're charging a full name.
[4:30] The thing to do is wait.
[4:31] If there is violence, then we can play that count on it.
[4:35] They look at the staff and all that they want.
[4:38] The function is
[4:41] I'm inclined not to change the style at all.
[5:05] I mean, you haven't done what some people have and what others have done, which is to say they're wonderful people, or I think it would be great if so many of us could play or do that crap, but you've got to do that.
[5:17] That's not going to be said in anything you do.
[5:23] So I anticipate trouble just picking beyond the demonstration.
[5:26] Well, actually, as I did more of the other conditions this time instead, there's no kind of a question there.
[5:36] We always have that.
[5:39] And I'm sure the price is going to be more balanced than the one that I was using.
[5:47] In my case, it was a soft hypocrite who told me, I don't believe it.
[5:53] You can't do that, can you?
[5:55] Well, then, if you can, I'm suggesting you don't.
[6:00] I'm not going to do it.
[6:02] I'm going to do it.
[6:03] I'm going to do it.
[6:15] I understand.
[6:17] It's very hard work.
[6:21] That's why he's gotten as far as he has.
[6:23] He hasn't quit at all.
[6:24] He doesn't really, you know, I mean, he's just a guy that picks things up in a hell of a hurry.
[6:30] And, you know, the great deal, though, is that it shows why it's pretty hard to send Jeff off to the bar or something like that.
[6:37] You know, they do good will, but he couldn't make it.
[6:41] Yeah, well, then that's what it's supposed to be doing.
[6:43] You know, business and trade and so forth, so...
[6:46] That's right.
[7:02] Why don't they stay with what was television, energy, TV, and Q&A?
[7:04] I told them they were going to be good.
[7:09] I think you should say it's fine.
[7:11] We were talking about the whole thing.
[7:16] It came out, and it was an answer to their question.
[7:19] So he didn't raise the time.
[7:20] The guy raised it and said, what about it?
[7:23] I'll tell it, and you can try my luck for him to have the people of the state on my line.
[7:31] I'll tell it, and you can try my luck for him to have the people of the state
[7:42] You don't need to push very much now anyway.
[7:48] My feeling is that the confidence factor was a good reason to push earlier.
[7:57] Do you think so?
[7:59] No.
[8:00] and you got this leading indicator story which is
[8:22] The portfolios of corporations, the portfolios of individuals, people think he's a million-dollar richer than he was, or a thousand-dollar richer, or $50,000 richer, or $25,000 richer.
[8:42] When he'd go out and buy a house, he wasn't going to do it.
[8:45] He'd get the car, or he'd borrow the car.
[8:47] He didn't even make commitments.
[8:48] Isn't that true?
[8:49] When it was going down, I think, my God, I'm losing everything I have.
[8:52] That's right.
[8:52] But don't you think that's the truly true of the game?
[8:55] It's that psychology that I think is so terribly important.
[8:58] They use themselves to plunge into companies, and all the rest of the whole business.
[9:10] That's why the stock market does sometimes, it isn't only just a cynical reading of the future, it also pulls the future.
[9:32] So it's got a long ways, it's got a long ways potentially to go.
[9:35] You've got all the small investors, private investors yet to come in.
[9:41] You've got to buy mutual funds, and mutual funds get more money the faster a lot of them are in.
[9:50] Okay, where's Agnew?
[9:52] He was here.
[9:53] I'm not sure.
[9:54] He's in good shape?
[9:55] I think so.