Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 252-005
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1971 at 2:42 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.
Recording device: Old Executive Office Building
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/252-005

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[9:09] I wonder about the, with regard to the handling of those Chinese, there's probably some areas that I don't want.
[9:24] Is that handled by the U.S. I.D.A.
[9:25] or is it handled by state?
[9:29] That's why I'm taking it out, but what I would like to do a little here is
[9:35] Well, you see, that's what I've been trying to do, avoid problems.
[10:01] Well, I had that one I didn't want to mention for this, although they're a very good type of destroyer at this point.
[10:08] So you've got to have a few of the skellies to now have a draw.
[10:11] Actually, three more.
[10:16] Okay.
[10:17] But we knew it was solid on the quick-throw-throw basis.
[10:20] They did that for us, at least for that one.
[10:23] And, uh...
[10:23] I'm sorry.
[10:24] I'm talking to you.
[10:27] I don't see what you want to do.
[10:32] You see what I mean?
[10:33] So get it out and get it done.
[10:34] Get it out and this is an excellent one for a skeleton to handle because it involves primarily the exchange between us and the rest and all that sort of thing.
[10:47] How do we know, for example, what I meant is, is this normally handled by Shakespeare?
[10:52] Is that the way it was normally handled?
[10:54] Or is it handled by Shakespeare?
[10:55] I don't know what it is.
[11:00] He is sort of a liberal type.
[11:02] Bill Gossett is a pretty good business.
[11:05] He's married to his granddaughter, the daughter of Charleston Jews.
[11:15] And he's sort of on the liberal side.
[11:16] But he is a responsible, decent man.
[11:19] I think he's fine.
[11:22] As a matter of fact, you are getting down.
[11:27] What I meant is right.
[11:28] I don't, I think it's important that we not get an impression where it looks like it's dead.
[11:35] We're not going to hog it on the stage.
[11:37] We just do it because we want to handle it on the same basis as my dad.
[11:41] What if they don't do it?
[11:45] But I think that because it is an animal, you know, it's a type, you ought to have somebody with them.
[11:53] I mean, we've really got to have a press man about it.
[11:55] We're not going to let the press man handle these people.
[11:58] And, you know, we need to wrap up.
[12:02] If it's somebody else, that's exactly what we can find in front of them.
[12:07] Work out the scheme.
[12:09] And, of course, we, uh, I know that, uh, I say this to you, you know, that's what it is.
[12:16] It's all the time.
[12:17] It's all the time.
[12:18] It's all the time.
[12:19] I can't believe it, man.
[12:21] But he must have got that from Martin Green.
[12:25] I don't know.
[12:26] But I'm part of the Hall of Fame, though.
[12:28] 99% of it's the other way around.
[12:31] It's being done, and because they're resentful, you know, for that reason alone.
[12:35] So I think it's good that the Hall of Fame has got a responsibility now.
[12:42] My God, I can see the name of the president.
[12:46] Another one was, you know, it was weird because I had to go talk to him about it on three occasions.
[12:51] He said, we've got a record here where I was saying about China, but we've got a record here where they all was.
[12:58] Except this latest one about that, which is not really relevant to what we're talking about.
[13:02] That's the first time.
[13:05] They responded with a list of names and so forth and things like that.
[13:13] That's, we're not going to get to the little, uh, Mickey Mouse game, because I think we've won on this one.
[13:22] But, but, but the call has agreed to something.
[13:28] Right.
[13:29] In other words, the Rodgers and Magnum were talking about this issue.
[13:34] We were talking about it.
[13:36] The, uh, the UN issue, which is another one, which I have deliberately, deliberately delayed, because we might open the hell up in a minute.
[13:43] Okay, fine.
[13:45] You can get a job now, so you can see he's not going to just follow his day.
[13:48] And the fellow not up here, as you see, he's willing to do anything you want him to do.
[13:54] But I'm sure you can get him in and say, now listen, this is how the procedure is.
[13:59] We don't want to make a statement.
[14:01] But your point is exactly right.
[14:03] We don't, the state doesn't handle other visiting athletes.
[14:05] What we're doing here, we've got this company done with great subtlety.
[14:09] But we've got to get a hold of those people in the right place.
[14:13] I didn't get it.
[14:14] He's a very, very, very OK. John.