{"conversationCode":"252-014","tapeNumber":252,"conversationNumber":14,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-252-014","startDateTime":"1971-04-28T19:53:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-04-28T19:57:00.000Z","startDate":"28-Apr-1971","startTime":"3:53 PM","endDate":"28-Apr-1971","endTime":"3:57 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Butterfield, Alexander P.;","description":"On April 28, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:53 pm to 3:57 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 252-014 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 252-14\n\nDate: April 28, 1971\nTime: 3:53 pm - 3:57 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President met with Alexander P. Butterfield\n\n     Wilderness statement [proposals to establish new national wilderness areas]\n\n     Jacob K. Javits\n\n******************************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Personal Returnable]\n[Duration: 47s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n******************************************************************************\n\nButterfield left at 3:57 pm","filename":["252-014-splice.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:30:29","tapeEnd":"00:34:34","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Butterfield, Alexander P."],"prevCode":"252-013","nextCode":"252-015","tapeTranscriptFile":"252a.mp3,252b.mp3","transcript":[{"start":1832.75,"end":1835.43,"text":"Okay, it's not one of those..."},{"start":1835.45,"end":1837.63,"text":"This is a... a statement."},{"start":1837.65,"end":1842.63,"text":"Well, in a statement, a statement reads what I was going to say, but... Oh, I remember."},{"start":1842.71,"end":1845.55,"text":"I had a date with a friend of mine."},{"start":1845.59,"end":1846.69,"text":"It was a message."},{"start":1846.81,"end":1847.61,"text":"It was a message."},{"start":1847.67,"end":1848.37,"text":"It was a statement."},{"start":1862.88,"end":1863.4,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":1884.99,"end":1886.34,"text":"They didn't want to write to Javis."},{"start":1886.38,"end":1895.34,"text":"This was about another matter."},{"start":1895.36,"end":1902.36,"text":"I hope we don't have to take it out there."},{"start":1903.44,"end":1903.94,"text":"Sure."},{"start":1903.96,"end":1904.48,"text":"Sure."},{"start":1904.64,"end":1904.84,"text":"Sure."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":1829,"end":2074,"startMethod":"llm-alignment","endMethod":"llm-alignment"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","originalFilename":["252a.mp3","252b.mp3"],"spliceSource":{"spliceType":"bigtape","sourceFiles":["252a.mp3"],"cutStart":1827.5,"cutEnd":2075.5,"adjustedStart":1827.5,"adjustedEnd":2075.5,"boundaryMethod":"llm-alignment","confidence":"high","splicedAt":"2026-09-18T14:10:24.756Z"},"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his Deputy Assistant Alexander P. Butterfield to discuss a pending wilderness statement and related legislative correspondence. The brief exchange centered on the President's approval of the proposed wilderness area designations and a decision regarding potential communication with Senator Jacob K. Javits. Nixon ultimately instructed Butterfield to remove specific language from the documents, finalizing the administration's administrative approach to the matter.","topics":["Wilderness preservation","Jacob K. Javits","Executive correspondence","Land use policy","White House administration"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T11:50:02.494Z"},"topicSlugs":["wilderness-preservation","jacob-k-javits","executive-correspondence","land-use-policy","white-house-administration"],"audioDurationSec":248,"audioFiles":[{"file":"252-014-splice.mp3","bytes":3959460,"durationSec":248.01,"bitrate":127721,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T14:10:24.756Z","transcriptPrev":{"segments":12,"replacedAt":"2026-09-18T14:11:37.679Z"},"audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/252-014-splice.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/252-014","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/252/conversation-252-014","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}