{"conversationCode":"252-025","tapeNumber":252,"conversationNumber":25,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-252-025","startDateTime":"1971-04-29T01:20:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-04-29T01:30:00.000Z","startDate":"28-Apr-1971","startTime":"9:20 PM","endDate":"28-Apr-1971","endTime":"9:30 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On April 28, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 9:20 pm to 9:30 pm. 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