Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 252-041 Date: Wednesday, May 5, 1971 at 1:16 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Gullander, Werner P. Recording device: Old Executive Office Building Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/252-041 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [2:01:36] He is the National Association of Manufacturers, N-A-M. [2:01:40] He's here for me. [2:01:51] Yeah, I just wanted to tell you that from Colson and others, I heard you've been doing some very effective work around, and I appreciate it very much. [2:02:00] I started circulating some of those items, and I've been doing some broadcasts with your friends. [2:02:07] Oh, there's a lot of good things. [2:02:10] Hope you have some fun, though, too. [2:02:14] Just so you have a little thirst for battle, at least, you know. [2:02:20] Oh, uh, keep after it. [2:02:22] We'll never give you a break, but if we can get about half a break, we'll be all right. [2:02:28] Okay. [2:02:28] Good job. [2:02:30] Thank you. [2:02:31] Hello. [2:02:32] It's, uh, not an urgent thing, huh? [2:02:44] Call me when you can. [2:02:45] That's right. [2:02:47] Tell them it's not urgent, please. [2:02:51] There's Gulliver, William Gulliver of the AM on that, and he called us for the... William Gulliver. [2:03:10] Gulliver, G-U-L-L-A-M-D-E-R. [2:03:11] He is the National Association of Manufacturers, N-A-M. [2:03:16] He's here for me. [2:03:22] I just wanted to tell you that all of our colleagues here have been most grateful for your help on our welfare reform and some of our other initiatives. [2:03:33] And I know that it may cause you some problems, some of your members, but if you would know that I've been getting hard on the work requirements that have been mentioned. [2:03:41] And because after all the purpose of our purpose is to get people off of welfare, not off, I think that they understand that a little bit in the message. [2:03:52] You know, we've strengthened a great deal of the work required. [2:03:55] I said, welfare workers, well people on welfare would have to take any kind of work, including so-called annual work, that gets home. [2:04:03] I believe if a person is able to work, he ought to do anything to stay on bail as well. [2:04:13] Anyway, we appreciate it and we hope that everything goes well. [2:04:19] All right. [2:04:22] Yes, sir. [2:04:24] Okay. [2:04:25] Bye. [2:04:25] Bye. [2:04:26] Bye.