{"conversationCode":"252-044","tapeNumber":252,"conversationNumber":44,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-252-044","startDateTime":"1971-05-05T17:16:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-05-05T19:00:00.000Z","startDate":"5-May-1971","startTime":"1:16 PM","endDate":"5-May-1971","endTime":"3:00 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; Griner, John F.;","description":"On May 5, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and John F. Griner met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:16 pm and 3:00 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 252-044 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 252-44\n\nDate: May 5, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 1:16 pm and 3:00 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe White House operator talked with the President\n\n[See Conversation No. 42-99]\n\nThe President talked with John F. Griner at an unknown time between 1:16 pm and 3:00 pm\n\n[Conversation No. 252-44A]\n\n[See Conversation No. 42-99A]","filename":["252-044-splice.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:03:29","tapeEnd":"02:04:57","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator","Griner, John F."],"prevCode":"252-043","nextCode":"253-001","tapeTranscriptFile":"252a.mp3,252b.mp3","transcript":[{"start":7527.65,"end":7539.62,"text":"I want you to know that I took note of the fact that you published quite a few papers that the number of the great majority of federal employees all came to work on."},{"start":7539.74,"end":7551.15,"text":"They're a great credit by any part of them, a great part of those of you and their leadership over there."},{"start":7551.51,"end":7555.77,"text":"I'm most grateful for you."},{"start":7556.52,"end":7565.17,"text":"I think we did the right thing."},{"start":7565.71,"end":7577.57,"text":"I think our police and others did pretty well to round them up."},{"start":7583.96,"end":7587.32,"text":"I appreciate it."},{"start":7587.88,"end":7594.34,"text":"I will remember."},{"start":7594.38,"end":7596.7,"text":"Thank you."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":7520,"end":7594,"startMethod":"llm-alignment","endMethod":"llm-alignment"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with American Federation of Government Employees president John F. Griner to express gratitude for the union's support regarding administration welfare reform initiatives. Nixon emphasized the necessity of strict work requirements, insisting that able-bodied recipients perform manual labor to transition off welfare rolls. The discussion served to solidify the alliance between the administration and the union leadership on these policy goals despite potential internal political friction.","topics":["Welfare reform","Labor unions","Work requirements","John F. Griner","Public policy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T11:52:51.711Z"},"topicSlugs":["welfare-reform","labor-unions","work-requirements","john-f-griner","public-policy"],"audioDurationSec":77,"audioFiles":[{"file":"252-044-splice.mp3","bytes":1229778,"durationSec":77.01,"bitrate":127754,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T14:10:25.306Z","originalFilename":["252a.mp3","252b.mp3"],"spliceSource":{"spliceType":"bigtape","sourceFiles":["252b.mp3"],"cutStart":7518.5,"cutEnd":7595.5,"adjustedStart":7518.5,"adjustedEnd":7595.5,"boundaryMethod":"llm-alignment","confidence":"high","splicedAt":"2026-09-18T14:10:25.306Z"},"transcriptPrev":{"segments":16,"replacedAt":"2026-09-18T14:11:40.913Z"},"audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/252-044-splice.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/252-044","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/252/conversation-252-044","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}