{"conversationCode":"253-043","tapeNumber":253,"conversationNumber":43,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-253-043","startDateTime":"1971-05-26T23:35:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-05-26T23:36:00.000Z","startDate":"26-May-1971","startTime":"7:35 PM","endDate":"26-May-1971","endTime":"7:36 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; Hanks, Nancy;","description":"On May 26, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and Nancy Hanks met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 7:35 pm to 7:36 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 253-043 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 253-43\n\nDate: May 26, 1971\nTime: 7:35 pm - 7:36 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator\n\n[See Conversation No. 3-149]\n\nThe President talked with Nancy Hanks between 7:35 pm and 7:36 pm\n\n[See Conversation No. 3-149]","filename":["253-043.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:11:17","tapeEnd":"03:34:08","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator","Hanks, Nancy"],"prevCode":"253-042","nextCode":"253-044","transcript":[{"start":1.08,"end":1.52,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":1.54,"end":7.17,"text":"Well, I'm glad you survived your day."},{"start":7.25,"end":9.05,"text":"That's because I know you."},{"start":9.13,"end":12.13,"text":"Well, everything went well."},{"start":53.71,"end":56.77,"text":"The main thing is you've got to make it work now, you know."},{"start":56.81,"end":60.9,"text":"Not just get the dough, but you know, get it around, huh?"},{"start":60.92,"end":61.04,"text":"Okay."},{"start":62.44,"end":66.71,"text":"And you give them, give them all I have, please."},{"start":66.75,"end":70.05,"text":"Well, you get all the credit."},{"start":70.09,"end":72.75,"text":"Bye, bye."},{"start":72.81,"end":72.89,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon spoke with National Endowment for the Arts (NEA) Chair Nancy Hanks to congratulate her on the successful outcome of her day's activities. The discussion centered on the importance of effectively distributing NEA funding rather than simply securing appropriations. Nixon expressed his full support for the agency’s efforts, emphasizing that while he provides the resources, Hanks deserves the credit for the program's success.","topics":["Nancy Hanks","National Endowment for the Arts","Arts funding","Federal grants","Public administration"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T11:56:48.975Z"},"topicSlugs":["nancy-hanks","national-endowment-for-the-arts","arts-funding","federal-grants","public-administration"],"audioDurationSec":73,"audioFiles":[{"file":"253-043.mp3","bytes":2933736,"durationSec":73.22,"bitrate":320552,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.695Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/253-043.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/253-043","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/253/conversation-253-043","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}