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Hello?

Yeah, what is your opinion about that Victor Roussel report on the media?

Can't do that.

Sure.

It's a little hard to learn just the...

In our case, the only thing that he has anything to write about is the W trade ban, which we, you know, that's the only decision we've made.

I don't like that.

Yeah.

We can talk about the other things.

Because I'm going to ask for support from SSP again.

I'm an IRO friend.

He still has his support.

He's an Irish guy.

Yeah.

He'll probably be a successor.

I don't know what to say.

There's a hell of a lot of membership, even if it's me, regardless of what it means, there's a lot of membership that will stick with us.

I'm trying to stick with this.

With a lot of these union guys who have jobs, and most of them, they want the union guys, because we've got them, and we've got them, and we've got them, and we've got them, and we've got them, and we've got them, and we've got them, and we've got them, and we've got them, and we've got them, and we've got them, and we've got them, and we've got them, and we've got them, and we've got them, and we've got them, and we've got them, and we've got them, and we've got them, and we've got them, and we've got them, and we've got them, and we've got them, and we've got them, and we've got them, and we've got them, and we've got them, and we've got them, and we've got them, and we've got them, and we've got them, and we've got them, and we

It's basically like Eamon's mistake, which is only a mistake in recent times, where it's constitutional in terms of media, rather than in terms of simply not CBS or something like that.

That's the way you ought to do it.

You ought to say, now, CBS did this or that, or Laura Cronkite did this, or Howard Smith did that.

He'd get away with that.

He wouldn't get away with it, but at least the moment you say media, the media does this, you're in real trouble with everybody.

That's it.

Yeah, and I hate to put a lot of it within a person.

The building trades need, needs modification.

They are, they've grown and so forth, but they all might fight that battle next to somebody else's battle.

There are no, there are no bolts in it for us.

There are not any damples, of course.

They all have butter.

I mean, what are you getting from it?

I mean...

He couldn't pick up any Negro votes.

He doesn't learn a bunch of stuff.

You know, not one damn vote.

In fact, George Schulz told me that, I don't know, somebody else was there in the last couple of weeks, and he was very disrespectful of Humphrey as well as Teddy.

He said Jackson's the best man in the line of work.

Well, I gave him a little laugh.

How's everything else going?

I guess everybody's gone home today.

They helped.

They just are there.

That's the best breakfast I've eaten in three years so far.

Yeah.

The House came through.

Today, a lot of Democrats are also Republicans, huh?

How about the Senate?

Is Robert Murray Goldwater anybody else?

I don't know.

I'm already stuck with that.

Why, of course.

But the point is, we already have the government's achievements.

So why not let people know that?

If they didn't, the main point is that it's the right thing to do, and it's going to be done again.

In case these people come back, we're going to get the same thing.

So it will work.

Well, like we should behind Hoover.

We're going to have a little cheat right now.

There's a right to demonstrate, and there's a right not to demonstrate.

Neither can interfere with the other.

I've seen these people try to interfere with the other, and therefore they've got to do it.

You know, it's an interesting thing how the media didn't give it much play.

I think they told us, I think they told us that I heard that you protected me.

Media called and asked me to protect you, too.

Any of them.

You've got to live with it now.

That's why.

I get that problem certainly with the $40,000, you know, paid by the group that supports the city.

They change it.

This city handles all things through, you know, this way.

The demonstrations across the country are far less than I know.

It blew up.

It blew up this year.

but it was less than what we had a year ago.

Back when everyone was all approaching, things were going down, and nothing less.

Even though people are more sick of the war, they're less fans of the demonstrations.

And that guy's standing up there making fun of it.

That must have just turned off a heart attack on the media.

somebody's going to burn that place.

But that should be a project across the map.

Burned it is not, but... We'll just keep it going.

Okay.

So you see, here's a guy who's brighter than that, but doesn't really know what's happening.

Yeah, but I think it's... That's what you want.

I think it's helpful, and it's sinking in.

I was just beginning to talk to Frank.

The president wasn't happy with his announcement.

I bet he was reasonably confident of getting an agreement.

Yes, sir.

And now there is no agreement.

We all know that the Soviets had made a political decision that it shouldn't be, but that they have played with us for a while.

And also that there are many other areas that we'll either open

I put that right out there.

There is a linkage argument that this is really a test on both sides as to whether we're going to do business or whether we're going to be.

And that's a very important point.

Because we have done well here.

And I didn't hear since people were going to do it.

Oh, I think, you know, but in a way, it's been an expectable.

They don't know exactly what it means, but they know it means more than it means to be honest.

I think it's going to build.

It's better that they don't .

people in this country who's deeply shocked by the events of the past few days.

And I want you to first, I will be writing, I am writing as a manufacturer.

I want you to tell the people in your organization, the people in the forest, to send to the country, and that they keep that courage up these hard times,

the great majority of people in this country back, and even the city turns out, I understand, on this occasion, and people from all over the country do.

What about your state of the country?

That's fine.

Well, they, you've got the, well, the, I guess down in Alabama yesterday, I went to the local field, and, you know,

I just made a point to be sure that he would speak whenever I could.

One of those calls would be, thank you for what you're doing, because that's what we really did need to do.

We needed to instill among decent people a respect for the men who protect us, protect the criminal elements.

Right.

Well, it's too bad that an incident like this has shocked people in their senses, but I think it had to do with it.

And in that respect, try it.

Try it.

You said it might have to do with the other men in the forest.

Will you please?

Thank you.

Yeah.

You know, I got a whole character just now, and I know that I had written a good note to it.

uh, police situation, uh, it would be useful, uh, meeting, uh, uh, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know,

I don't know where he's going.

Well, you see, I think about cooler jobs.

You know what I'm saying?

Is he a red?

Is he a red flag?

Now, the other point I want you to do a little thinking about, if you would, I've just been reading over again John Whitaker's memorandum.

I'm not sure if it's, I mean, it's, of course, certainly the right thing, and it must be the best way to start a game, but I'm not sure if it's the best way to start a game.

My concern is that if all we're going to do is give our money to the Department of Interior, I just don't think Washington

You see, and I do feel that there is something that you said.

I know that everybody says, well, NASA is not capable of doing it, and everything's got to turn around for them, and NASA is the only way to manage growth.

On the other hand, I have natural competence in the interior part of the job.

I'm not concerned about that.

The money, I don't know.

But on the footing of Judge John, it's what it really gets down to again.

So they're saying the thing is, it came to me.

They came in and said, let's leave it in the National Health Institute and this and that.

And then study it.

Well, if that's it, then screw it.

I mean, let's just leave it where it is and do nothing.

Because, first of all, you know Dan well.

He brought him over.

I don't think he's probably, he's not much of great shapes, and the guy over there seems to be a pretty nice fellow.

But the flare is something that I don't think they've got an angry thing to do it.

I just think that, now let me put it this way, apart from the water problem, I think there's a lot of public interest in the idea of using NASA's competence

in another area also john it's a way and i don't know about your all of our recommendations we've got to get away to get off those damn moonshots and give you a break in that point there can't be any after july and if you already none after july i don't want to risk any more and well my point is

Why not send it over there?

They say, well, it'll regard an issue with regard to the Department of Natural Resources.

Nobody gets a tinker tantrum about the Department of Natural Resources.

I know.

No, I know.

I know.

And you've got to see it all.

It's like everything else.

I mean,

I understand we can go ahead on that even though they're committed to it the other way.

I'll just get in there and talk to them.

I'll say, hey, that's my home state.

You've got your problems and I expect you to listen to my home state.

What's that?

But do not include the enemy.

Which he wants.

But we won't fool with that.

Be sure he knows we might.

If you start a proposition with him, in this respect, you start a proposition with him.

Well, maybe that isn't the best way.

Maybe McGregor could go down and see him and say, I don't care.

I don't know.

I don't know what the devil he can do about it.

Of course, the San Francisco and the like has just got to get going on.

But the point is, the point is they're wrong.

They're wrong.

It's the officer's fault.

Now, I don't have the list of the officers' faults.

He doesn't know the beach.

Christ, there's thousands there.

No, there's another 20 miles to a beach just as good or any better than this beach.

The better beaches toward Oceanside, you know.

Sure.

Well, the beach toward Oceanside gets better, you know.

The cliffs get lower.

And down there is where you get the magnets to the beach.

The rocks aren't there.

And I like to just, in honor of what you're doing, we're doing everything we can, but I just feel that

On the water thing, I'm not going to sign the paper, but I just want you to know that I'm not satisfied with it because I don't think it's got enough public relations impact.

Why are we doing it?

We're doing it for two reasons.

One, I'm doing it for the water, but we may never make a breakthrough.

There's too much of it for California and Texas for people to care about that.

But three, I'm doing it for the concept of a scientist

new use of America's, in other words, let's start this, add this thing of applied science in one place.

The social ends, exactly right, rather than just going to the moon.

And I think, why the hell not start on Mars?

No.

Yeah.

Can we do it now?

Now, Martin raised the question on that.

Well, you can leave, of course, but another reason the jury shouldn't have their contenders in this really big regard.

But the main point is this needs to stay remarkable.

I don't mind the research.

I mean, just the basics.

Maybe some of the basic research.

But...

What is needed is the application, the management, the building of big plants, and all that sort of thing.

Damn it ought to be in something like NASA, because they tell you there's a word god damn in that respect.

As you well know, it's one of their colleges, Bureau of Reclamation.

Not a great shift.

That's what you're hearing.

I already think that's true, John.

Yeah, are you talking to him?

All right, now let me ask you to do this.

This is a very good idea since he's there.

I want you to give this damn paper to him.

Was he there the day of the discussion?

Yes, he was.

And say, all right, here, now, would he gamble with going there, or is he leaving this thing?

He knows it by now.

And, uh, let's talk about it.

Now, that's an excellent point.

You want me to call all of them to Colorado?

Fine.

And, uh, set up the meeting.

I'll meet with the three, I'll meet with the four of you at any time.

Right.

And, uh,

Could you bring my briefcase over here, please?

Right, please.

Ready, Price.

You did Andrew's work on the West Point area.

Yeah.

Is he there then?

Yeah.

I did some work on it last night.

I had sort of a new idea that was to cut it.

And I was wondering if it was mechanical.

I'm over in about 20 minutes.

You come in so that you can sort of get a feel of how I think about it.

And here's, let me tell you my concern.

My concern as a person, not with regard to whether the president is going to do the damn good job, my concern is that whether the president turns to everyone else, there's almost a total

of Vietnam and the next of the next policy of Vietnam, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

Now, I don't want to wait.

I will, of course, make a mention, but I think the piece would be rather different to that presented at this time.

Again, this has begun to be, in fact, my whole idea, and Pete Peterson, who I love, he had a problem

As a matter of fact, of course,

Alright, about 20 minutes EOD

Show me, please.

Right there.

Yeah?

Uh, about that?

Yeah, well, how did your, uh, your, uh, what, artist go?

It may be worth, maybe worth going.

Well, I don't know, we, we never know whether this issue is worth watching, Dan, but at least it's, uh, something that's important to

these people, and also important in the long run, what we do, so we just gotta go with it.

Yeah.

Oh, sure, like that.

You can fire that fire.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah, I see.

Yeah.

You remember what happened?

But then, you know, the story goes absolutely true.

Some guy, oh, there's a bearded guy or some guy, one of the guys attending.

Boy, it's not very long here.

He told me exactly that.

They'd already taken about, I think he told me there were 10,000 kids from Watson.

Physical common things, not physical, you know, I don't know what kind of kids.

I didn't care.

So that meant something to those people, and they got that.

And I thought it was interesting, too, the little story about the children who go second class.

And I remember that, you know, that story.

I believe he was 40 years old when I recall when I was working there.

It's really true.

A woman, you know, a remarkable woman, did it for nothing to come there and tell us the truth.

And she came back, you know, and her family both appealed to buy a name for her to go second class.

And they decided to go.

a horrible first class, which I think is about the best way.

What we need is that we can get across something like that.

And I do feel strongly about that.

But then, just food stamps and a little more income and increase my social security and give me a better time and so forth is not all that's in line.

There's a hell of a lot of people in the world that don't have much, but who

very little in the area.

That really wasn't.

These people in the arts, what I mean, had to tell people.

In other words, a person who says that, you know, tell some of the greatest people in music.

They had that basis later on, but they started from very poor families, you know.

Not that they had that.

Otherwise,

Okay.

Let me just, I marked this up in ways that you can probably figure it all, figure out what I'm headed by.

Let me say a couple of things in regard to the time element.

They'll be standing up.

This is a standing crowd.

They're used to standing.

They have a long time.

They're very hard.

might come, might change, so I think we were thinking in terms of the maximum amount of involvement with the members of the committee.

And co-ed is the most, perhaps the second.

As it pertains to science, excellent, John, the point is that I want to shift in terms of multiple appearances now,

the ship was suddenly given away from Vietnam, and she managed to move it on, and she had a buddy, a three-person company, and they were just hanging around, and they were taking some car shares, et cetera, et cetera.

I understand that, and the people are, et cetera.

They're trying to lift their sights, and let them see beyond.

In other words, we've got to talk about what's American, and what's Vietnam, and what's,

I need a record of the long, uh, background of the ship, of the background of the ship.

I'm going to work on it.

I'm just going to have to scan it quickly.

I'm going to have to look at it.

is the issue in which we are concerned.

We argue about when, we argue about how.

Soviet and Soviet were successful in that.

If I were certain about Russia, about the Mideast, or about China, I'd say we're about Vietnam.

Vietnam, see?

So you're not gonna put that in a situation

And so therefore, you've got to understand, well, we don't debate about the anomalous and that should we have a deadline, should we do a little further, should we or should we not do this, but this is an issue that if we are going to see it truly, we're on a path, it's going to be ended in a way of other aggressions of this type, and therefore make the city more peaceful than the world, and that's what we believe.

I think, therefore, that what I've done, I've gone through and marked this up in a way where I've educated those places where I think it's useful, where it fits in with your draft, where I say, OK.

I think a rather deep way to get into it might be, a lot of us here, I've taken on three pages, and some of you have had to do it when I started, and I should start over again, but you can figure it out on this.

There are 3,400 men here today.

that very few people will be called non-servant.

And the 20 out of the 730 graduates?

The graduates, not that many.

That very few of those people will be called non-servant.

And it is my hope, and this of course is the direction of our policy, that the great majority of people will not be called non-servant anymore.

Get it right out there.

Now, what then is your purpose?

It is less ageless, but more difficult to serve in peace than in war.

Now, that may be working in a different way.

Eisenhower used to say, service in peace time is more difficult than in war time.

I suppose if you look at Vietnam, and this refers to World War II and World War I, it wasn't always important.

But basically, in peacetime, without going into the difference between that, about why I didn't want this, and all the people say it, where I did sort of pick up this,

And your service could mean more.

You could contribute more to the customer.

It could mean more to the customer.

There's a lack of lasting peace on the ground.

The service you're going to turn to is your option.

Instead, basically, that's part of the idea that

We understand that we are, and all that we are concerned about.

But this is the top of our concern.

But let us understand that this war, we are ending.

And we're ending it in a way

which will contribute to lasting peace.

Say it and then don't go on.

Don't go on.

You take a look at this business that I go on.

Sort of read through that and then perhaps pick it up there.

And then you sort of take a mouthful.

Another way, another way, I'm just throwing my ability on her.

Now, our ability is concerned, there is no question.

I am convinced that your service is important.

Well, your service will mean more to us than that of your grandfather.

I say could be.

And we live in the beginning.

Here we are, and I cover this up there.

You read the deal?

Now, that's what we had to do.

And then briefly you go into the superpowers.

And I cover that.

The Chinese, the normal, the Chinese, the European development, you know, the United Europe.

And the...

An indispensable factor.

If there is to be a chance for peace in the world,

And that, whether we, whether we have the American will to maintain adequate strength until there is a future reduction in the world, I have, I had there a fairly good quote in my, which I worked out, and I've got some stuff on there now and then.

where I said that a unilateral, that's a good idea.

When we talk about limitation, limitation of arms, what are you talking about?

First, we are interested in that, but not as an end in itself.

We talk about the end limitation of arms because it serves the end of contributing to a more peaceful world, right?

Who the hell would care if we have all sorts of nuclear things floating around?

unless they threaten the peace of the world.

So, now, a mutual limitation or reduction of office, a mutual limitation of office, serves the cause.

A unilateral limitation or reduction increases the nature of the world.

At the present time, we've got a rough balance between

And that's true not only of America versus the American piece of the Soviet Union to pursue the superpower.

It's true in a place like the Middle East, where our policy really is to maintain the balance of power.

And because if they don't maintain it, there would be a war of revenge in part with Israel's neighbors.

And if we go too far building it up, Israel can't get out of it again.

It's true.

So anyway, I'm not suggesting you get into all this, but I'm suggesting just the velocity.

Now, so before we work on this, read that big log.

It's about 45 to 50 minutes long.

It would take a little of my time, maybe because I tried to put it in Chinese.

It's out of military sharing.

Now, let's go on.

I digress.

Indispensable back.

The indispensable back, or maybe go stronger than the indispensable back.

This is America.

And as far as maintaining that conservative strength, it's going to require the elbow of the people.

You're the best people in terms of the law.

As far as recognition is concerned, recognition, as far as honor in terms of public recognition is concerned, you will not get what you deserve.

that the country, maybe here's a good one, but this country will be a good one.

People you will never know will be the generations to come, because you maintain the strength, the sentience.

Going on from there, I'd like to get into the theme, which is standard, but it's very important.

Be proud of your country.

Be proud of the uniform.

And I cover this in El Paso very well.

We can, yeah, I call it a lot about America, but in this century, America has never engaged in conflict.

It has never gone to war for territory or conflict.

Not if we're aware of what we're aware of in Korea or Vietnam.

And if America withdraws, if it turns away,

and it's responsible for the world to be infinitely less safe, more dangerous than it is today.

And I use this in this program as well.

They talk about those who talk about the Americans' power, those who talk about the Americans' power in the world, and want us to do this.

And then they put flesh in the world.

turn it to ourselves.

The nation and the world, they would like to have hands on our revolution.

At this time.

Here I travel to 70 countries.

I've talked to leaders in 70 countries.

I have yet to find a leader, private conversation, the most intimate private conversation, who fears that the power of the United States, whatever it is, will break the peace as far as it is concerned.

My question is this, Captain.

We ought to be proud of this strength.

And when we talk about wouldn't it be great if America were just as strong as us?

But the point is that if you can conceive of a world in which America was weak, when America not only didn't have the strength, but the will to obtain it, and were necessary to use it,

then your whole lines which and all of this of course you've done it much of this about be proud and still cry and your people and uh

Another way you might want to get at some of this is to, if you have a challenge in a way that is to be done in the workplace in a hurry, which is greater than combat, there you risk your life, particularly your obedience and courage, to be strong when you do not want to use your strength.

It requires courage and strength.

if we fail you will pay the sacrifice you will

you will have to pay a price for risking your life in a second.

If you fail, we cannot succeed.

But that's about the kind of thing I'd like to get in.

Now, a lot of this, for example, all of your stuff about whether the people of the United States of America are going to be rich or not, and so forth, whether we as a nation are going to have insurance,

I don't think you can say you're comfortable with that.

And then the idea that day after day, this is a slow science, this is somewhat overstated.

I don't want to create an euphoric issue because it's all gone.

It's in China.

You can see evidence.

It's the one that evolved into the last.

It's the one that has cancer.

Those are just some random thoughts.

But you can perhaps try to pull it together.

I think we're getting to the bottom of the session.

Well, I understand there is a lot of places you can come to.

It's a small country.

We're at the beginning of the present.

We cannot see the present.

We're at the beginning of the present.

We see other elements.

The story.

They can say, the story.

The story can change and say, change and say.

The president is a very hard story.

The war happens.

I said, I think we can, I think you can, I think you can say what you said.

I said, I don't know what I'm going to say, but I don't know.

I don't know what I'm going to say.

Arms control, limitation of arms, reduction of arms.

are not ends in themselves.

They are only means to an end, the reduction of the nature of war.

And that unilateral reduction, reduction which is not mutual increases the nature of war, whereas mutual reduction could be used.

That key point, that's a, that could be a pretty common thing.

Then come on, now, then it comes in, where do you see it?

Well, nevertheless, and as far as, therefore, as far as honor is concerned, public recognition, and as far as your country or your work, I'm going to make this responsible.

I'm going to be in charge of some space in the back of the Army.

The Army...

The actions of the few have been allowed to smear the proud tradition of the great, the magnificent military tradition.

And let's not kill ourselves about that.

And then you go on to go through that.

I think that's about it.

About the way that, you know, I'm not going to sort it out.

I want to just take a crack at it.

All right.

Let's go down there.

You can see the thrust.

All right.

Okay.

Next one.

Let me just show you this.

Are they here?

I want to get a picture of them.

I can take a quick scan to see where it is.

Right now.

Fair enough.

You ready?

No, no, no.

You've got the harder job.

I thought they were going to meet at the other office.

As a matter of fact, I'm going to be trying to set this up for a vacation.

Is it over?

Okay, go ahead.

Thank you very much.

What a fine job.

Okay, ready?

Yes, sir.

I just wanted to know if you want to come over to the press lady's shop and try to pick up the ladies tonight at 745.

I really thought you would at least be aware that you were invited.

I don't like it.

They're all here, sir.

Yeah, I don't like it.

I don't see it.

I thought it would do, because killing the police, the New York police, the recent killing of the police, would be to say that the president spent the day already.

He told me that he was writing letters to the families of those killed and asked me to say that I would not issue a statement like that, but I would quote what you told me.

Yes, sir, I've talked to this as a result of that.

But I would quote what you told me and refer to your November directive to the Attorney General where you called for the FBI to intervene.

He's agreed on that.

I don't know if we are going to check.

All right, don't say it now.

Let's get at it and probably say it at a later time.

Because I think we ought to.

Now, do you want me to pick this meeting or this?

Sure.

This is Andrew.

Well, this is policeman.

Policeman and, uh, policeman and policeman meeting.

Priority should have nothing to do with it.

Edgar, how are you?

No, I didn't see you.

I read about your party at the park with your job there.

He was an MLS chaperone.

God, I'll tell you, you better be.

That was good.

You know, the last time I had a team up, she came here and she came with me.

I think it was at this part of school, man.

I think it has to be over here.

God damn it.

We've got to do something.

Other than just talk about this.

We've got to listen.

You know those two guys who started to chop in the back?

You know those poor little guys who, I understand, never, in 13 years, never shot a gun.

And he molded those churches.

You know how many molded those churches?

One of them got, I think, six times.

And the other one, the back, the other one fell.

Now, the point is, the person...

It's a question of the issue.

It's respect.

We've got to have respect for all.

We've got to have respect for the men who forced the law.

It's one of the reasons.

I feel it's so important for the Bureau not to be allowed to move on, and I need to turn that around.

I don't think that's right.

They laid on the yellow musketeers that he had made.

And the government had so involved in this that it fell flat on his face when he began to make the statement.

From there, now the whole country is at fault.

They destroyed the armed forces, that's the right thing to do.

Now, the same act that was directed to the Australian police force, that's right, has always preceded every country where there's been a revolution.

That's right.

See, the problem today is, you know, obviously, how popular is the girl problem.

The damn girl problem is something we never had before.

We didn't have it at the time.

You and I were like the damn problem.

Right.

I don't think that we did have it then, but when they came back to Vietnam in the 40s, oh, they're terrible.

They are.

They're in terrible shape.

What I'm getting at is that I feel we have a second-hand direction.

We've heard it in France.

We've got a problem with just political dissent.

Political dissent.

There was never an administration full of dissent.

We didn't hurt each other.

And the president was more strong than that.

John, it's been great.

Whenever I've had an opportunity, when they give me a chance, I try to do it.

On the other hand, I have worked in a bunch of countries.

You know, I did it yesterday.

I was in Alabama.

I was a full deal.

I never missed a chance.

My point is, I can feel, not from a fire in the woods, that we've got to get more public.

We've got to get more public so that they really know we stand this way.

We care for each other.

John, I think you know the place to go.

Do they?

Yes, sir.

You can see that the opening of this new kind of house ends this year.

All right.

We have 2,000.

We'll have a follow-up to 2,000 right next year.

We only have 2,000 at the moment.

We won't have them.

Why don't I move?

All right.

Let's move this chair over there.

You know, we see it in the national press.

You know, I was thinking there was some way that the national line might have brought this to the table.

I don't know what I was talking about.

Everybody.

I'm going to relax and see if it will heal.

I think we ought to make a very positive statement.

It's true that every one of these missions

We once advised the local police department that full facilities of the FBI is laboratory, fingerprint division, and running out of all out-of-town leads.

You see, you can't take someone in a state, for example, if there's some punk in the town, or any out-of-town leads where the man may breathe, or try to poke a jersey at him, if he all has any property, he's going to want to go on a tour and inspect it.

And in any of those instances, the FBI's

of his own.

He needs to be available.

And in this regard, you have a police officer killed yesterday.

And by this daughter of the wrong man, a person I call the society of the mayor, the kid.

Well, he's got a boy voice in his ears.

Yes, he has.

He's the kid who gets the wrong news.

He's here?

Yes.

And this girl is actually, you know, she was thrown out of college in California.

and living together in one of these communes.

Well, why don't we, well, we could, yeah, we could do that.

But you see, we've said that before, and it's always been the honor of being on reserve.

Do you think there's any place, any area, I mean, let me tell you, it's an interesting thing about the Congress, the Congress reacts according to what happens in the morning,

It's like Mickey Mantle.

If he played in Minnesota, not the greatest Indian star, you know, he had the same average.

But in New York City, he gets a title.

Now, basically, I think there's going to be a hell of an interest in this stuff going on.

There are 45 states in that country that I talk to.

That was good, yes.

If somebody had to be killed, let's have one of the blacks killed too.

Yeah.

The impression we have is that they thought that these two men were officers on some kind of housing inspection.

And that these two persons who killed them, not necessarily police officers, but were agents of some narcotic squad in the police department.

But that makes no difference.

I haven't been in the business to be any officer now.

But whether that's true or not, I don't know.

That's what the impression is going to be on the police.

I'd like to refresh your recollection of when you came up here last summer.

You know, I met with the International Chiefs of Police representative.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

And at that time, Schweitzer had a job there.

And someone was talking about him or others.

uh, and some of the people from the police benefit, so she should work on the Congress of the United States.

But the chiefs of police reckon that this was just a facade because the bills related to interstate travel didn't hurt.

She doesn't get in a problem.

Uh, that is, I know that.

That is wrong.

A lot of people think it is, but you say they're all usually in-house patients.

I don't know why they were so happy with and why you were directed with November 1.

You have so much publicity in the police magazines.

Although, this is what the police wanted.

They wanted just what you're talking about, the recognition that the police do go through, and the people in high office care about it.

I got an idea.

Could we do this, John?

Would it be peaceful?

I had the LEAA as some sort of a fund.

I think it was $75,000 in those killed guys.

And then when a port police gets killed, maybe three or four kids, there ought to be some way to... Is that something that you can't hear?

Let me give you a little background on that.

Kennedy has had a national service insurance bill for a long time, which mostly is for police and firemen, which mostly people are not told, because normally police and firemen take care of the pension funds that the police and firemen have when they first appear in the court, like a substantial fund.

They take care of it for their lifetime and their children.

I'm sure there are other states that don't have this.

And here, and here, there might be, there might belong to make sure that they don't converge.

We're in this national floor, the national floor to take care of these families and children.

And I, let's just argue on the kinds of the essence.

All right, now how would you do that?

How would you have an action?

We can do that exactly the way we did on the camera.

You establish a federal norm.

And then the states make the door, the localities make the door, in addition to that, as their option.

And they don't bring a lot of money to the government.

You can't tell them, sir.

Yes, sir.

I do have a separate piece of legislation.

I don't know the next slide.

I have a separate piece of legislation.

That's much better to show them.

It needs some more.

And you had at least insurance when the government was already in place, and this was one of the critiques that we had, that the candidates, you know, there wasn't any sense in setting up an entirely new level of insurance here for the

We have a lot of benefits under Social Security, but these fellows probably are not eligible for Social Security because they're under these global pension banks.

And we can amend the Social Security Act, and we can tap the existing trust funds for that.

But we'll work on it.

We can move on something.

We can find a way to take something that is quite...

quite painful in their life.

And actually, that is what I'm saying.

In Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, the big city, what do you mean, how old are you?

Yes, well, you see, because of the fault, their benefits go on top.

Well, this goes on top of it.

You see, not his.

You can't say you get a whole lot of options.

This gives them more of a supplementation, you see.

I see.

You see, in our service, each man in the bureau contributes $10.

And there is a $10,000 fee from the contribution to the homeland, plus what the government provides for it.

I thought it would be $65,000.

This is another thing to let us think about, John, your federal law enforcement establishment.

Yes.

You have to get exactly the same kind of money.

Right.

Isn't it good idea?

I think this is good idea.

You're saying you've already done it.

And then this obsession, this violence is now, rather than taking the farm and burning the city, it's now taking the farm and killing the police.

What do you say to that?

I'd break down the military.

I'm a law enforcer.

I think there's going to be more.

And, of course, God.

I just couldn't believe it when they bring those anchors and Bobby Segal and the rest of them.

But you can't imagine when your president and I push up the wires and say, no, if you're going to send us some of this wire, you have to pass it over before we can send it to you.

And they shouldn't want it.

They shouldn't want it having an extreme position.

And incidentally, you can never get that point off.

I don't know if you can ever get that point off.

That doesn't mean anything.

And then they have these state houses ready for them.

Because they have this bank that's in there.

And it's not just here.

There's two offices in that bank.

And when these brothers came in,

This girl set up a car, where they were out on the road.

It cost the wrong people money to buy those.

It cost 55, $55, $100 a day.

You live on heroin.

Now, you're going to fund for 150 to 100.

At least 50 is the minimum.

Now, you can't get that by moving somebody.

You get that by going to a bank and getting $100,000, $150,000.

What we have in most of these banks all over the country is big money.

So the money that's given to the bank lobby is already listed as the numbers and serials.

So we can immediately pick it up if it's circulated to the banks, as it has to be.

We've had a case, in fact, today is, I don't think it's not the time right now, we arrested 26 people in New York City on the matters of gambling.

We had one wiretap off for one day.

We had 5,000 calls, placing bets, totaling $1,300,000 in one day this past week.

Last year it was a value of $1,000.

That wasn't for a whole week or two, but that's what I think.

Policemen's lives are saved in situations where, I don't know, hand coverage is discovered or something of that kind.

You can hear that on the telephone.

I don't want to say it, but it's a note of a good deal of hand coverage.

Now, what is the situation?

The reaction of the president to the number of lawyers and judges in the country

who are critical of this action in Connecticut.

They thought that they ought to be called to trial again, otherwise, to admit that your so-called judicial system is no good.

The judge, of course, has all the balance, and the state's attorney is announcing him out of prison for trial.

Now, the man who defended, who tried the case in Los Angeles of the mistake of the man, he said there had been a disagreement in that case.

He would have filed it again.

He said Nixon in, Angela out.

Angela Davis, huh?

Well, you can get a lawyer, I understand.

But my God, I mean, this is a, this idea that Angela Davis, I mean, of course, it's really funny, that's what Patrick said.

She ran off.

She, they, they, they, this crowd, this Barragan crowd, they've got to be in Pennsylvania.

They're, they're, all of a sudden, they're putting out all kinds of propaganda.

They can't, they release it every day as to what their case is.

What an excellent, I think, I think it's a very good thing.

But the defendant's letter came out in the second indictment.

That has caused a great turmoil amongst the followers of Philip XVI.

And, of course, they believe that he was a sincere priest.

He had nothing to do with this thing at all.

He had to look for a romance with the sonata they had made for this.

They think that he double-crossed them all.

They think he had killed them, because the letter showed that he was not one to have an affair.

And also, the letter showed about the talking about getting down at night and making the examination of the countenance.

That release of that car is more good, I think, than any other.

Now, of course, the government has been criticized for trying to keep the pavement.

They went, they won't try, and they call up the people.

Don't worry about that.

The interesting part about that is the guideline for the attachment of that rudder was put into the County General's handbook for the Ramsey Park.

That's right.

He doesn't care what the doctor says.

He has a story that at the end of the day, the greatest amount of lies that I've ever listened to, that he thinks about is why it happened.

He's the general.

And it was done when he had a new idea of life.

Well, I haven't written the book.

I know you did so well.

Look, don't ever, let me say it.

Don't ever hesitate for one minute.

They asked me about it when I was in California.