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Conversation 254-019

TapeTape 254StartMonday, May 31, 1971 at 6:20 PMEndMonday, May 31, 1971 at 6:30 PMTape start time01:32:23Tape end time01:36:09ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Haig, Alexander M., Jr.Recording deviceOld Executive Office Building
AudioNARA Description

On May 31, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 6:20 pm and 6:30 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 254-019 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 254-19

Date: May 31, 1971
Time: Unknown between 6:20 pm and 6:30 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with General Alexander M. Haig, Jr.

     President’s location

     President’s meeting with General Nguyen Van Thieu

     Vietnam
          -Negotiations
          -Military action
          -Korea
          -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
          -People’s Republic of China [PRC]
          -Henry A. Kissinger
          -US policy

          -Negotiations
                -Russians
                -Chinese
          -Casualties
          -Negotiations
          -Military action
          -Negotiations
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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I think it is.
For me, when some people are committing it all, it's like parodying it all the time.
They say, specifically, concerned about how it fits them.
They might play it to afford it, but I don't think they're going to do it as long as we don't.
I think we still want to hear it.
The difficulty is how it is going to be the next year.
If it's the right thing to do, do it.
Take those things and change them.
It never, it doesn't change the Russians.
It didn't change the Chinese.
I don't think I've changed these people.
What I'm really concerned about is that these guys really are playing us for suckers.
They're getting into the deal simply because they're a foreign country.
You know, they're changing.
Hell, the atmosphere doesn't make any difference.
I'm much more skeptical about this.
I know that.
I'm much more skeptical than Henry is.
I know.
I read that.
I just re-read all of those things.
It happened before.
I'm not really...
But I'm sure in this case,
Right now, right now, I think it's the best chance, I would agree, to have the right minds.
This is the time that you negotiate, particularly when also they must have in mind that we're talking to both the Russians and the Chinese.
Trust me, go on.
I agree.
But I think, I think that we must not allow our military to see
I mean, you know, in the last few months, you know, those 31 guys, you know, in the last couple of days, we're not seeing anything.
I mean, they've been very effective in the post-pandemic, you know, being in a position where all these people are proud.
That's the point.
You say, well, you know, it's true.
It's true.
It's true.
It's true.
It's true.
It's true.
inhibit our actions, which is wrong.
We should never be inhibited by talking.
If they don't stop, that's the other thing.
You see, that's the point that we don't understand on our side.
We should stop.
That makes sense.
Otherwise, they may quit talking.
For Christ's sake, do they stop?
They bomb the hell out of us, you know, they lock all these shells in right when they know what talk's going on, right?
Do you miss them?
The next one doesn't count.
Black?
All right, 845 counts.
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