{"conversationCode":"254-028","tapeNumber":254,"conversationNumber":28,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-254-028","startDateTime":"1971-05-31T23:18:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-05-31T23:21:00.000Z","startDate":"31-May-1971","startTime":"7:18 PM","endDate":"31-May-1971","endTime":"7:21 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On May 31, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 7:18 pm and 7:21 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 254-028 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 254-28\n\nDate: May 31, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 7:18 pm and 7:21 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator\n\n[See Conversation No. 3-209]\n\n                                                                     Conversation\n                                                                     Conv. No. 254-33\n                                                                                  No. 254-29\n                                                                                      (cont.)\n\nDate: May 31, 1971\nTime: 7:21 pm - 7:22 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Tricia Nixon\n\n[This is the original beginning of Conversation No. 254-029, which has been merged with\nConversation No. 254-028.]\n\n******************************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 09/12/2019.\nSegment cleared for release.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[254-029-w001]\n[Duration: 18s]\n\n[See Conversation No. 003-210]\n\n******************************************************************************","filename":["254-028.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:45:37","tapeEnd":"01:45:41","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"254-027","nextCode":"254-029","transcript":[{"start":1.63,"end":7.25,"text":"I forgot one other name that's very important."},{"start":7.75,"end":8.79,"text":"Edward Rocker St. John."},{"start":8.87,"end":15.34,"text":"These other names don't bother Mommy with them, just because of the old gal."},{"start":15.54,"end":19.9,"text":"She loves us so much, and she's a good old boy."},{"start":20.94,"end":21.66,"text":"All right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with the White House operator to finalize a list of names for a personal communication. He specifically requested that the operator avoid involving his wife, Pat Nixon, in the logistical details of contacting these individuals to spare her unnecessary concern. This brief exchange focused on managing personal correspondence and curating the President's private outreach efforts.","topics":["personal correspondence","White House operations","Pat Nixon","administrative coordination"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T11:59:35.052Z"},"topicSlugs":["personal-correspondence","white-house-operations","pat-nixon","administrative-coordination"],"audioDurationSec":22,"audioFiles":[{"file":"254-028.mp3","bytes":886909,"durationSec":22.02,"bitrate":322152,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.695Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:11.801Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/254-028.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/254-028","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/254/conversation-254-028","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}