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Dobrynin?]\n              -Unknown person’s forthcoming meeting","filename":["255-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:11:25","tapeEnd":"00:13:44","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. 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The participants deliberated on strategic diplomatic maneuvering with Soviet Ambassador Anatoliy Dobrynin, specifically emphasizing that any potential agreement must remain temporary and strictly excluded from broader technological exchanges. Nixon underscored the necessity of compartmentalizing these negotiations to ensure they do not expand beyond the immediate, narrow objective.","topics":["George Meany","Anatoliy Dobrynin","Labor relations","Grain exports","Diplomatic strategy","White House scheduling"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T12:00:31.287Z"},"topicSlugs":["george-meany","anatoliy-dobrynin","labor-relations","grain-exports","diplomatic-strategy","white-house-scheduling"],"audioDurationSec":136,"audioFiles":[{"file":"255-005.mp3","bytes":5458338,"durationSec":136.33,"bitrate":320304,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.695Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/255-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/255-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/255/conversation-255-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}